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re: Programs in the SEC that demand greatness

Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:44 am to
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:44 am to
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I would say LSU football and LSU baseball both demand greatness. We expect to win nattys in both sports. Coaches that fail to do so within a few years will be on the hot seat and then get fired after that if they dont win one within a couple seasons...that's a fact. Doesn't matter the buyout or who they are as a person. Nothing matters but winning national titles when talking about expectations for lsu football and baseball.


I think you might be right about this, but we will see if it holds. If Brian Kelly doesn't make the playoff this season and isn't fired, then no.

UF was like this after Urban, but we have been softened up after hiring several terrible coaches in a row and keeping most of them too long including the current one.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:45 am to
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Not really. Otherwise Napier would've already been fired.


Y'all let McElwain and Muschamp and Napier and Zook stick around a little bit before letting 'em go.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:48 am to
Zook was a great recruiter (which Napier isn't) and Muschamp got a longer rope because of the 2012 season.
A coach going 6-7, 5-7, and 8-5 would be ran out of Tuscaloosa.
Posted by grubbyflat17
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:53 am to
Texas Swimming and Diving
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:55 am to
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Tennessee women’s basketball?


This one may also fit the category. They got rid of Pat's long time assistant pretty quick, but they kept Harper for 5 years and she never finished higher than 3rd in the SEC and never got past a sweet 16.

She played for Tennessee though so that one makes it tougher.
Posted by SPAGHETTI PLATE
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:55 am to
I knew a couple of yell leaders back in the late 2000s

Both of them pulled more 10/10 pussy in a semester than an internet neckbeard such as yourself could get in a 1000 lifetimes.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:57 am to
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Both of them pulled more 10/10 pussy in a semester than an internet neckbeard such as yourself could get in a 1000 lifetimes.


Those were dudes.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29062 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:58 am to
Alabama gymnastics always has, too.

Not that I really care except that it's one more thing that makes UA great, i guess.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
44592 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:58 am to
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Texas Swimming and Diving


Yeah we will see about this one. They have been a powerhouse for so long I don't remember them needing to fire anyone.


Motherfrickers.

Yeah maybe I am bitter that we hired the wrong Reese brother.


Just kidding sort of, Randy did a great job at UF, just that Eddie did a better job at Texas.
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 9:59 am
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:59 am to
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Alabama football
Kentucky basketball
LSU baseball

If you coach one of these teams, you are on a short leash.


A short leash for National Championships. Other programs, like LSU, will put up with much less, much longer.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27498 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:02 am to
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Zook was a great recruiter (which Napier isn't) and Muschamp got a longer rope because of the 2012 season.
A coach going 6-7, 5-7, and 8-5 would be ran out of Tuscaloosa.


That's true.

Maybe y'all just have malaise.
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:06 am to
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A short leash for National Championships. Other programs, like LSU, will put up with much less, much longer.


Alabama went 17 years without winning a national championship. Kentucky hasn't won a title in 11 years, and the one prior to it was 14 years earlier. Since 2000, the longest LSU football went without a title was 12 years.

You can make an argument that pre-2000 LSU football doesn't belong on this list, but it clearly does now.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
44592 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:07 am to
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Maybe y'all just have malaise.


This is how I feel.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
44592 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:13 am to
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You can make an argument that pre-2000 LSU football doesn't belong on this list, but it clearly does now.


Maybe before this season I would agree. But Kelly was this huge splash of a hire, and he hasn't done much in 3 years. This season he lost to Sunbelt Billy and finished unranked and was trounced at home by Bama and nothing. Not even on the hot seat. LSU was preseason ranked 5th in 2023 and 13th in 2024.

I would even say Kelly hasn't done as well at LSU as Mullen did at UF.
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 10:27 am
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:14 am to
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Alabama went 17 years without winning a national championship. Kentucky hasn't won a title in 11 years, and the one prior to it was 14 years earlier. Since 2000, the longest LSU football went without a title was 12 years.

You can make an argument that pre-2000 LSU football doesn't belong on this list, but it clearly does now.


ALABAMA has 18 NC and 30 SECC. LSU needs to filter its drinking water.
Posted by morriscat2
tennessee
Member since Jun 2012
2006 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:17 am to
Butt Chugging at Tennessee?
Posted by Aggie in TN
Franklin TN
Member since Jun 2022
2139 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:17 am to
You lost me at the intersection of Brian Kelly and Greatness.

Not gonna happen.

Might kill an assistant or two, but not going to reach greatness.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
44592 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:27 am to
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Butt Chugging at Tennessee?


Still undefeated, no?
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
44592 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:28 am to
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ALABAMA has 18 NC and 30 SECC. LSU needs to filter its drinking water.


This is not a question of program pecking order.

Program pecking order is difficult because the 3 programs mentioned in the OP are the 3 all time best in their respective sport.

Georgia is on the top in football right now
Auburn is on top in basketball right now
Tennessee is on top in baseball right now (or maybe A&M)

But none of these schools and anywhere close to the others historically.
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 10:34 am
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
39725 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 10:29 am to
LSU baseball fans basically demand a trip to Omaha every year. It's a pressure-cooker job.
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