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re: Pro athletes: How I spent my first million: IDIOTS!!!

Posted on 2/9/21 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 2:45 pm to
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If you are going to put it in CAPS might want to spell it correctly.


Good God.

Get a freakin life Karen.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:20 pm to
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The "dumb" professional athlete thing is real and genetic.



It might possibly be worse for professional athletes. You are talking about a group of people who are given leeway in every facet of their lives from the time they show exceptional talent until they are out of sports. Most are never taught how to handle money and then as young men ranging from 19 years of age til 22 or 23 they are given millions of dollars. Some find financial advisors who are corrupt and give them bad advice, and most athletes feel they will have several huge contracts and thing the money train is endless.

I like a lot of what Dave Ramsey teaches concerning financial matters, and he said he deals with professional athletes on almost a daily basis. He said he can divide athletes into two camps. The ones who have no clue about how to handle money, and the ones who are shrewd investors and are very savvy when it comes to money. Pretty much no in between.

You have to remember that there are some extremely bright athletes that do a good job handling money, too. Reggie Jackson, for one. Hank Aaron, Magic Johnson, Tony hawk, Greg Norman, Cal Ripken and John Elway are all examples of athletes that have parlayed their fortunes made in sports into long term success business wise.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:27 pm to
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Mike tyson can buy whatever the frick he wants


Actually....no. Mike Tyson made $685 Million in his boxing career, and today he is worth $1 million. He has squandered most of his money with poor decisions, and I would be willing to bet was taken advantage of by managers, too. (Just guessing)
Mike Tyson Net Worth as of 2011

Floyd Mayweather, meanwhile is worth $340 Million

ETA
An update of Tyson's Net Worth shows him at $3 million, so he is growing his wealth. Athletes do have an opportunity to come back from financial disaster with endorsements, autograph sessions and public appearances.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:25 pm to
First of all Mike tyson didnt make $685 million. don king and other leeches took a major portion of that.

Second, I was just making a joke. i like Tyson, hes a character. Let him buy tigers and shite
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9127 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:47 pm to
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You middle-aged, fat white dudes feel better about yourselves now or no?


People really love telling others how to spend their money. Probably the same people who make 70 k a year but have an 800 dollar a month Denali and 2500 note.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:46 pm to
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First of all Mike tyson didnt make $685 million. don king and other leeches took a major portion of that.



Surely you know better than that. that's like saying somebody didn't really make $100,000 because the government took a cut, and food cost money, and electricity etc. Funny how Mayweather manages to be worth $300+ million.

He made that much because that is what his fight purses paid. Yes, he had to pay promoters, and trainers, and training facilities etc. But yes, he made $685 million and then had to pay expenses.

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Second, I was just making a joke. i like Tyson, hes a character. Let him buy tigers and shite

Buying tigers and stuff seems like a great idea, until you look up and find out you don't have any money, because you spent it on....tigers and stuff.

True story. I knew Truett Cathey of Chick-Fil-A.
My family attended the same church, and he taught my son in Sunday School when my son was in the 8th grade. Once a year, Mr. Cathey would take all the boys and their dads out to eat, then we went over to his house. He owned two large garages and the walls were lined with antique cars. (He loved collecting old cars)

One car in the middle of the floor was a Range Rover. It had a minifridge in it and the seats were covered in chinchilla. He said that Mike Tyson had special ordered it and put down $250,000 for it. When they finished building it for him he never picked it up.

That's why Mike Tyson doesn't have as much money.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119138 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 8:49 pm to
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True story. I knew Truett Cathey of Chick-Fil-A.
My family attended the same church, and he taught my son in Sunday School when my son was in the 8th grade. Once a year, Mr. Cathey would take all the boys and their dads out to eat, then we went over to his house.


Great man. I heard him speak in Lexington a few years ago. What a great story and testimony.
Posted by mattfromnj
New Jersey
Member since Mar 2020
570 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:21 pm to
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You have to remember that there are some extremely bright athletes that do a good job handling money, too. Reggie Jackson, for one. Hank Aaron, Magic Johnson, Tony hawk, Greg Norman, Cal Ripken and John Elway are all examples of athletes that have parlayed their fortunes made in sports into long term success business wise.



Sort of anecdotal but a lot of them- guys who played in college but never made the pros too- go into sales. Medical, financial, anything. They're professional schmoozers basically. Bring some former QB from 15 years ago to a big golf outing with potential clients. "Business development" "Client relations"

Posted by FredSez
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2007
174 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:07 pm to
Liberty Bank in NOLA is a Afro-American bank whose President spend a lot of time and money working with professional athletes on money management. He remarked that many did not see themselves a wealthy and had no clue as to how to manage their money. Former Saint Ricky Jackson who is not the sharpest tool in the shed, did exactly what Jim Finks (Saints GM) told him to do with is money and is doing well despite huge child support liabilities. Johnathon Vilma spent a lot of his time in the NFL working with players as well. He was an All-Academic ACC player from Miami with a degree in finance. You can lead a horse to water but cannot make him drink.
Posted by Im Back
Member since Nov 2020
503 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:11 pm to
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Financial training and a support system that helps them understand their responsibilities is critical. Don't know what that looks like or how it can be implemented.


You are suggesting grown-ups be taught how to manage money? What, are they retarded?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:20 pm to
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He said he can divide athletes into two camps. The ones who have no clue about how to handle money, and the ones who are shrewd investors and are very savvy when it comes to money. Pretty much no in between


Not even remotely true.Of course there's an in between.

Guys like Jeff Francour, Billy Andre in golf or even older guys like Bob Horner,Dale Murphy or Steve Bartkowski weren't hugely successful serial entrepreneurs like Greg Norman or Magic Johnson but all did well enough to not have to worry about finances the rest of their lives.

This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 10:21 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24730 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:02 am to
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You middle-aged, fat white dudes feel better about yourselves now or no?


Yep, we're not broke. Thanks.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119138 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:28 am to
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You are suggesting grown-ups be taught how to manage money? What, are they retarded?


You don't watch the news about pro athletes and money?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:40 am to
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Great man. I heard him speak in Lexington a few years ago. What a great story and testimony.

The entire family are good people. They are very generous and down to earth people. It was truly a privilege to know him.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:43 am to
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Not even remotely true.Of course there's an in between.



I'm sure there is. I was just repeating what he said. And, I doubt he is very far off. However, most people tend to concentrate on the extremes and miss the middle ground of most things. Look at politics in our country.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:20 am to
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I'm sure there is. I was just repeating what he said


I get that and I do listen to the guy occasionally but I'd be pretty pissed if I was an athlete who "interacted" with em and he was relating those experiences on the air and I get that he wasn't using specifics.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:25 am to
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Espn did a 30-30 on this. Had a follow up episode also I think. Title was Bankrupt. Andre Rison washes cars for a living now.

The first one was title "Broke" and yes, it's very good and extremely enlightening. Some of the "business ideas" these athletes "friends" have that they invested in were hilarious.

It really illuminated how many terrible ideas Curt Schilling had that cost him basically all of his wealth. Whether it was poor business acumen or just bad luck, he lost millions and millions of dollars on horrible ventures
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:48 am to
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You middle-aged, fat white dudes feel better about yourselves now or no?
I'm middle-aged but not remotely fat, and my finances are in pretty damned good shape. I do feel better about myself now. Thanks for asking!
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 11:18 am to
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I get that and I do listen to the guy occasionally but I'd be pretty pissed if I was an athlete who "interacted" with em and he was relating those experiences on the air and I get that he wasn't using specifics.




I get that. Like you said, he did not call any names. If I recall correctly, he said most of his experiences happened when he was first going down the road. I mean, is it any worse than people starting threads on message boards, or youtube videos or web sites? no names, just in general discussion.

If he was giving names without permission? Absolutely. To me that would be unethical. But when it comes to stuff like this people use anecdotal stories all the time. I get your point, though.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 11:22 am to
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You middle-aged, fat white dudes feel better about yourselves now or no?


It's almost as if he thinks middle aged, fat white dudes can't have an opinion. But I guess even when athletes admit they made stupid mistakes middle aged fat white dudes are not allowed to agree.....why? because they are middle aged, fat white dudes. Maybe the poster that made those comments feels better about himself?
It's okay for him to be critical, but not middle aged, fat, white dudes.
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