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re: Praying for friends and family in central Florida

Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by ugasickem
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:48 pm to
There’s no use in arguing with an idiot. So I won’t. I’m not the one that needs to research
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
24198 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 9:24 pm to
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The FEMA budget is just under 21 billion. Ukraine was allocated over $110 billion at the start of the year and has gotten payments of at least 60 billion this year.


So can you show me where this money came from fema? That was the initial question here.

Yes money was appropriated for the Ukraine conflict but how was it taken from fema? These are 2 separate issues. Wasn’t this about FEMA money?

We all know Ukraine is getting assistance but it has nothing to do with fema. Show me where FEMA money is going to other things other than what it was allocated for.

Wait, nevermind, you can’t come up with anything so you divert to something else. The old trump method. Go on about your business, we’re done with this.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Capn_Bevo
Austin
Member since Jan 2019
933 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 9:26 pm to
My Aunt is in Clearwater.

"Very windy. Keep hearing branches falling on the roof. No power " as of 9:15 CST. Could be worse
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 9:53 pm to
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So can you show me where this money came from fema? That was the initial question here.

Yes money was appropriated for the Ukraine conflict but how was it taken from fema? These are 2 separate issues. Wasn’t this about FEMA money?

We all know Ukraine is getting assistance but it has nothing to do with fema. Show me where FEMA money is going to other things other than what it was allocated for.

Wait, nevermind, you can’t come up with anything so you divert to something else. The old trump method. Go on about your business, we’re done with this.


No that was not my original question.

This was:

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What is the FEMA budget that's been given to disaster relief vs the money spent taking care of illegals and being laundered through other countries?



If you knew I was right all along, why did you sit here and demand proof when as I said to start with - the difference is so big it was meant as a rhetorical question.
Posted by Tigerfan0318
Missouri
Member since Oct 2018
2139 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:15 pm to
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My stubborn arse 82 year old uncle won't move. Offered to come get him, my oldest tried to get him to go South to Miami with them.

He's staying put, and it's frustrating as hell to be honest


Yeah, but gotta love people like that. God bless him!
Posted by SoonerKA1999
T-Town
Member since Aug 2021
830 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:16 pm to
They just reported on Reed Timmer's YT Channel that the roof on the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Stadium just blew off..
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15525 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:22 pm to
FEMA’s current priority is keeping volunteers from assisting in western North Carolina, Virginia, South Carolina, Virginia and eastern Tennessee.

They are going to be spread really thin if they are tasked with going to Florida and fricking up relief efforts there too.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15525 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:34 pm to
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We all know Ukraine is getting assistance but it has nothing to do with fema. Show me where FEMA money is going to other things other than what it was allocated for.


It is in their mission statement.

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FEMA is committed to helping all eligible disaster survivors influding U.S. citizens, non-citizen nationals and qualified non-citizens. To qualify for FEMA assistance, you or a member of your household must be a U.S. citizen, non-citizen U.S. national or qualified non-citizen. Undocumented families with diverse immigration statuses only need one family member who is a U.S. citizen, non-citizen national or qualified non-citizen who has a Social Security number to apply.


There is a FEMA app for immigrants in central and south America to use to coordinate their trip to U.S. How do you think all the Hatian immigrants got to the U.S.?

Do you think they bought their tickets? Do you think the airlines just donated those seats?

No, FEMA paid for them. If you are in another country, all you need is one family member in the U.S. to receive disaster relief. Even if you are in Haiti, Guatemala, or El Salvador.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15525 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:43 pm to
That is from the FEMA website. They don’t even try to hide it.

Most people are just too stupid to realize what this means:

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Undocumented families with diverse immigration statuses only need one family member who is a U.S. citizen, non-citizen national or qualified non-citizen who has a Social Security number to apply.


If one person has a social security number, FEMA will help their whole family regardless of where they live. Think about how big some families are. Then think about those same big families when you extend it out to cousins, 2nd cousins, 3rd cousins in all countries.

The FEMA mission statement and current policy allows for 99% of central and south America and the Caribbean to come to the U.S. to flee “disaster”. The only thing hindering them is they already spent their budget. That is why they say they don’t have money to help the people devastated by Helene and soon Milton.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
24198 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:26 pm to
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There is a FEMA app for immigrants in central and south America to use to coordinate their trip to U.S. How do you think all the Hatian immigrants got to the U.S.? Do you think they bought their tickets? Do you think the airlines just donated those seats? No, FEMA paid for them. If you are in another country, all you need is one family member in the U.S. to receive disaster relief. Even if you are in Haiti, Guatemala, or El Salvador.


Where does it say that? What they are talking about is who is eligible for assistance in a national emergency. Not flying people in to to be involved in it.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
24198 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:28 pm to
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Most people are just too stupid to realize what this means:


You.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
24198 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:53 pm to
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There’s no use in arguing with an idiot.


Sounds like you hate talking to yourself. Seek help.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15525 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 12:08 am to
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Where does it say that?


The FEMA website.

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What they are talking about is who is eligible for assistance in a national emergency.


The declared Haiti a disaster. There is nothing that says the disaster has to be in the United States. And they don’t have to be U.S. citizens. That is why they have paid to transport what some estimate to be 5% of Haiti’s population to the United States the last few years. Where do you think that FEMA money came from? I mean, it came from their budget. But beyond that, it came from taxpayers. I think we have a right to be infuriated.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15525 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 12:12 am to
I see a bunch of responses, but I don’t see where you answered my question.

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How do you think all the Haitian immigrants got to the U.S.?


What do you think? They walked?
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
2929 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 12:36 am to
So the Trop, which was supposed to be the base camp for emergency responders once Milton clears out, had its roof taken out by the storm.
Posted by Wanruningchen
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 9:46 am to
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This post was edited on 10/10/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
20835 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 12:20 pm to
Reporting in from Lakeland. Power is back, wi-fi is back, and it could have been much worse.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 12:21 pm to
Ummm, that does not look bad at all. It looks like it's just the tarp type roof that was probably designed to fall apart like that.

Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7469 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:12 pm to
The people I know in Tampa all stayed and had no problems. They are a few miles inland.
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