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Potential SEC starters and their deep throw efficiency last year

Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:31 pm
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:31 pm
Pro Football Focus categorizes a "deep throw" as throws 20 yards or more downfield (all numbers according to PFF stats).

Sorted by NFL Passer Rating
1. Joe Milton - 134.0 (14-29 | 8 TD | 0 INT)
2. Jayden Daniels - 124.7 (16-42 | 5 TD | 0 INT)
3. Devin Leary - 110.2 (9-29 | 4 TD | 0 INT)
4. Will Rogers - 108.3 (17-40 | 9 TD | 2 INT)
4. KJ Jefferson - 108.3 (17-40 | 8 TD | 2 INT)
6. Payton Thorne - 104.6 (25-61 | 9 TD | 3 INT)
7. Conner Weigman - 103.1 (5-16 | 2 TD | 0 INT)
8. Tyler Buchner - 97.1 (5-15 | 1 TD | 0 INT)
9. Jaxson Dart - 95.8 (24-66 | 6 TD | 3 INT)
10. Graham Mertz - 93.6 (22-53 | 9 TD | 4 INT)
11. Spencer Rattler - 90.9 (26-59 | 7 TD | 7 INT)
11. Brady Cook - 90.9 (19-59 | 3 TD | 1 INT)
13. AJ Swann - 65.7 (6-29 | 2 TD | 1 INT)


Players with 5 deep throw attempts or fewer:
Carson Beck - 108.3 (1-3 | 1 TD | 0 INT)
Jalen Milroe - 0.0 (0-5 | 0 TD | 3 INT)


Joe Milton's 134.0 passer rating was the highest by a power 5 QB (at least 20 deep throws) last year. 35% of his total attempts were 20+ yards. Sustaining that efficiency will be difficult.

Spencer Rattler was one of the more accurate power 5 QBs on deep throws (44%, 11th), but when he missed, it went to the other team.

Graham Mertz had a 94.3 PFF grade on deep throws, which was 4th in power 5.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:33 pm to
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16-42

Posted by Aguga
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:35 pm to
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Jayden Daniels


Wide receiver trying to throw the ball

quote:

Jalen Milroe


Running back that can’t actually throw the ball
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:43 pm to
Carson Beck, as a backup, doesn't have a lot of numbers.

Here's a youtube link about 11 minutes long of every passing or QB scramble of 2022.

So for anyone interested in an eye test, this is an honest video. It's not highlights, it's every snap where he passes or runs. The good and the bad.

LINK
Posted by BBQRick
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:47 pm to
And people doubt Milton after his bowl game performance to add to these numbers. He's not the same QB that first enrolled at Tennessee. Has had two years under Heupel backing up what really was a Heisman candidate QB in Hooker.

It's funny to see UGA and Bama's new QBs as the leading dinker and dunkers of the league.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:49 pm to
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It's funny to see UGA's new QBs as the leading dinker and dunkers of the league.


Because you have a pass happy offense, no surprise the passing numbers are higher.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:50 pm to
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Carson Beck, as a backup, doesn't have a lot of numbers.

Here's a youtube link about 11 minutes long of every passing or QB scramble of 2022.

So for anyone interested in an eye test, this is an honest video. It's not highlights, it's every snap where he passes or runs. The good and the bad.

That kid wouldn’t start at 10 SEC schools this season, 12 if you include Oklahoma and Texas.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:50 pm to
Milroe is not going to win the starting job if he can’t learn to throw it deep and away from harm. Didn’t show improvement in spring either.
Posted by BBQRick
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:52 pm to
Check their over 20 yard attempts and completion numbers. Yikes. We won't have to worry about them going over the top that much. Makes it much easier to game plan against QS like that. QBs that are too scared to or just can't stretch the field consistently.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 7:53 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:52 pm to
I'd be curious to see it broken down by opponent.

Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:55 pm to
As would we all. Are you down or up while throwing 50-yard bombs against 3rd string defenses against south east bum fuct U.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 7:59 pm
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:02 pm to
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Sustaining that efficiency will be difficult.

Well yeah. He’ll be playing at the beginning of games and not the end against backups in blowouts
Posted by BBQRick
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:06 pm to
Milton throws a hell of a deep ball and his accuracy has greatly improved. You guys must really have his first season when he was new under Heupel over throwing it left and right still imprinted into your minds.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Carson Beck, as a backup, doesn't have a lot of numbers.

Here's a youtube link about 11 minutes long of every passing or QB scramble of 2022.

So for anyone interested in an eye test, this is an honest video. It's not highlights, it's every snap where he passes or runs. The good and the bad.

LINK


While they may not count as deep passes, that link showed a lot of middle distance passes on ropes to recievers. What's odd is that even though most were caught, many probably should have been but the fact it was guys way down the depth chart caused them to be dropped. I only saw a couple of bad throws in that link.
Posted by DawginSC
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 9:07 pm to
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That kid wouldn’t start at 10 SEC schools this season, 12 if you include Oklahoma and Texas.


Lol. That kid had a 74% completion percentage, 186 passer rating and had half of his pass attempts against top 25 opponents.

I think he's going to either be first or second team all-SEC this season. Throws passes accurately where only his guy can catch them and unlike last year where he was throwing to second and third string guys, he'll be passing it to Brock Bowers, Dom Lovett and Ladd McConkey this season.

Posted by OleManDixon
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 11:43 pm to
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Brock Bowers, Dom Lovett and Ladd McConkey


Posted by hogfan870
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 11:49 pm to
How is 16-42 (Daniels) better than 17-40 (Jefferson and Rogers) Especially with less TDs?
Posted by RyDawg
Georgia
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 11:51 pm to
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That kid wouldn’t start at 10 SEC schools this season, 12 if you include Oklahoma and Texas.


You said the same about Stetson
Remind me again what all he accomplished?
Posted by CelticTiger
Saint Louis
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:19 am to
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How is 16-42 (Daniels) better than 17-40 (Jefferson and Rogers) Especially with less TDs?


I could be wrong, but it appears they are showing deep throw efficiency stats, but sorting by NFL passer rating which encompasses other things.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 12:22 am
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 12:29 am to
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How is 16-42 (Daniels) better than 17-40 (Jefferson and Rogers) Especially with less TDs?


It's due the NFL Passer Rating formula (NFL Passer Rating calculator: LINK)

KJ: 17-40, 641 yards, 8 TD, 2 Int
Rogers: 17-40, 541 yards, 9 TD, 2 Int
Daniels: 16-42, 517 yards, 5 TD, 0 Int

For what it is worth, the PFF deep ball grades favor KJ and Rogers.
KJ: 91.6 grade
Rogers: 91.3 grade
Daniels: 85.9 grade

PFF grades are a bit subjective, which some take offense to.
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