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re: Possible Fixes for NIL Craziness.

Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:31 pm to
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The simple fix (which isn't so simple) is to enforce the existing rules


There are always ways around rules.

If you start regulating collectives, then they will be restructured through marketing companies. Boom. No longer collectives.

Trying to get your hands around NIL is like trying to get your hands around the water coming out of a sink. It isn't going to work.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 7:32 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12393 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:44 pm to
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The supreme court ruling prohibits schools (the NCAA) from punishing an athlete from receiving money for his name image or likeness.



Can you please link. The only ruling I know is SCOTUS prohibited schools from limiting the amount of money a kid can receive for educational benefits.
Posted by memsu
Member since Sep 2022
30 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:21 pm to
Mike Leach had the best solution when they asked him about it during SEC media days.

Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
11610 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:38 pm to
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Quit spending money that the athletic departments don't have.


You should tell Congress that.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
11610 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:40 pm to
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When you have employee contracts with buyouts, you have HR and an opportunities for unionizing.


I said it shouldn’t happen, I didn’t say it wouldn’t.

Unionizing more so than HR.
Posted by MOS0311
Member since Sep 2022
1042 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:41 pm to
You're a gentleman and a scholar, OP. I wish I had more upvotes to give!
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Razorhead
Member since Nov 2022
654 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:07 pm to
If a player accepts money, they should be required to play the bowl game or pay back a portion
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
13088 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:30 pm to
The supreme court decision basically invalidates all of these.

If you want to control players you need them to sign a contract. Which likely means you need to pay them.
Posted by Senator Mendoza
Texas
Member since Dec 2022
13 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:36 pm to
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Bryce Young example. . . to my knowledge BY wasn't paid NIL $$ to come to Bama


LOL. Riiight. Nick Saban was bragging about the money Bryce Young got before he ever took a snap at Bama.

Saban Bragging
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12393 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:51 pm to
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The supreme court decision basically invalidates all of these.


Please link the case you are referring to. The last SCOTUS case involving college athletics said the NCAA could restrict the amount of money for an athlete for education expenses. It did not rule on NIL. So I am not sure what ruling you are referring to.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12393 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:55 pm to
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LOL. Riiight. Nick Saban was bragging about the money Bryce Young got before he ever took a snap at Bama.



Actually Young played in 7 games in 2020. He did not start until 2021.

You also seem to be clueless as well. You responded to a poster who said Young wasn't paid NIL to come to Alabama. Which is true as Saban said Young received his NIL money in 2021 a year after he arrived at UA and had already played. Some of you need to research maybe first before posting.
Posted by Senator Mendoza
Texas
Member since Dec 2022
13 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 11:35 pm to
You're right, those 156 yards and 1 TD in 2020 was absolutely worth a million dollars in NIL money.

Well, whether it was NIL money or bagman money, Young absolutely got paid to go to Alabama. You know that.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
69173 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 3:39 am to
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3. Teams need to have an NIL "salary cap." Don't know what that number is but there needs to be a cap. For those who say it's anti free market. . .NFL has salary caps to protect the teams and owners. We need NIL caps to protect schools and boosters


It blows my mind how people still can't distinguish the difference between salary and endorsements.

Yes. The NFL has a salary cap.
No. The salary cap has nothing to do with endorsements.

There already is a salary cap in college football. It's set at zero dollars and zero cents.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
69173 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 3:41 am to
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Please link the case you are referring to. The last SCOTUS case involving college athletics said the NCAA could restrict the amount of money for an athlete for education expenses. It did not rule on NIL. So I am not sure what ruling you are referring to.


Because there's nothing to rule on. The NCAA has nothing to do with NIL money.

You might as well be talking about the price of oil.
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1635 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 6:25 am to
1. NIL will sort itself out…

2. In the near term, it can be equal parts Charlie Foxtrot and dumpster fire…

3. aggie is doing the NIL right [wrong] upvote [downvote]
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12393 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 6:30 am to
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Because there's nothing to rule on. The NCAA has nothing to do with NIL money.


They do in the fact it can not be used to entice a HS recruit to sign with a program. And currently SCOTUS has nothing to do with NIL as they have yet to rule on it.

Thanks for the link.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3732 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 6:31 am to
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Possible Fixes for NIL Craziness.


We have NIL because the NCAA, and smaller colleges, were so aggrieved by $100 handshakes, free apartments, and a new car on signing day for the top players. And so, by their fix, we got this.

Try to fix this, and what comes next will be unforeseen - but even worse. Leave it alone for a couple years though, and it'll settle out to something sustainable. Because it has to either becomes sustainable - or die out.

That's the problem. Too many people trying to "fix" the free will of those wanting to give away money, and those wanting to take it.
Posted by TigerFan244
Member since Jan 2012
2860 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:15 am to
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That is definitely not a free country if you have to make rules!


Oh boy. Another “It’s a free country” nut. Look around…there are rules EVERYWHERE. In a free country you have to have some rules for civilized society to function
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
30807 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:47 am to
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tax payer funded scholarships.


they aren't funded by tax payers
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
3043 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:49 am to
How long till we hear about a big NIL winner, blowing it all and not having anything left for the tax man?
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