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re: Pollack: "The best rivalry in college football right now is LSU and Alabama"

Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:40 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:40 am to
quote:

I doubt anybody has the Bama/UT game circled on the calender including the players on each team.



So would you argue that the Iron Bowl, in its current state, is not a rivalry? Who had that game circled on their calendar last year?

Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:41 am to
I always liked the LSU/AU games. For some reason they always seemed to be one of the hardest hitting of the season.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22567 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:42 am to
The Iron Bowl and the logical comparison you bring by mentioning it is irrelevant, it doesn't fit into the LSU talking points on scheduling.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:47 am to
quote:

Who had that game circled on their calendar last year?


Since it decided who got to go to the SECCG, I had it circled.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

quote:
Biggest rivalry -
1. Bama vs AU,
2. Certainly not Bama vs. UT




No one gives a shite about that game outside of those two fanbases.


This is so true. A few years ago before anything SEC related was going toward A&M I never even realized that Bama/UT or Auburn/UGA were really "rivalries". To the world outside the SEC everyone knows about the Iron Bowl or the Cocktail Party but those 2 games just don't matter to anyone outside of those schools.

That isn't to say they aren't rivalries, they just aren't games that people outside of those schools feel a special need to tune in for unless both teams are good. To me they feel more like how A&M/Baylor "The Battle of the Brazos" used to be. We played each other for 120 years with a lot of history and it was a game you hated to lose but nobody outside of those schools gave a damn.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:06 pm to
I just don't get why you people don't recognize LSU as a rivalry. We play them every year. Both fanbases have done things to eachother OUTSIDE of the field to warrant a rivalry on and off the field. We freakin stole their coach and won 3 national championships with him. Anybody who says that LSU ISN'T a rivalry, is an old fan or is just some holier than thou traditionalist.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 12:08 pm
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:08 pm to
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We freakin stole their coach

"ummm....." -Don Shula

This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 12:10 pm
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:11 pm to
Great game does not equal a rivalry. Take away Saban and the run both schools have been on and the game is nothing special. The schools have little in common traditionally.

Besides that Bama has too many "rivals".
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:11 pm to
You know what I mean


Makes it sound more epic haha
Posted by DonDraper
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:11 pm to
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Rivalries are born out of hate. The LSU-Bama rivalry was born when Saban accepted the Bama position. And with the recent success of both programs, it's become intensified.


Jesus, rivalries don't just pop up because of a couple of years, and a coaching change. Hell, our rivalry game with UT has been going on for a 100+ years.

FYI, college football was played before Saban arrived at LSU. Now is the UA-LSU game a heated divisional game w/ national implications, oh yea. But we're not rivals.

Since TAMU is coming up you guys should try and start one with them.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:13 pm to
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and start one with them.

Already there. Younger guys don't realize it...but they will.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:13 pm to
Well, you can't take them away. And Auburn and Tennessee haven't come within a few touchdowns of Alabama except about 3 times in combined 13 years. Take away Phil Fulmer's little snitch, and the rivalry, while still alive, wouldn't be NEAR what it is now or was in the early 2000s
Posted by AirDawg
The Great State of Calm
Member since Feb 2013
2015 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Paul Finebaum said that this year it is Alabama and A&M.


I'll see your bullshiite answer and raise with Alabama vs. Georgia. Or should I say Georgia vs. whoever plays in the SECCG?
Posted by DonDraper
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

is an old fan or is just some holier than thou traditionalist.


Uh no on both accounts. Not to be a dick, but when did you become a UA fan/alumni? Were you raised in a UA house?

Rivalries dont just come and go, and just because the past 5 years have been heated games doesnt mean we're rivals.

Let me guess, if we go back and fourth with TAMU the next few years, and some "off the field" stuff happens with them, are we now going to drop UT and claim TAMU rival? But then if UT bounces back do we drop AU, and pick back up the UT rivalry? Rivalries aren't made like that.

Heated divisional game with national implications on the line? Yes. Rivalry, no.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75911 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:20 pm to
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Pollack: "The best rivalry in college football right now is LSU and Alabama"


As Cameo would say, he's talkin out the side of his neck.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:25 pm to
Alabama and A&M have played a grand total of 5 times and once in the past 25 years, it's not a rivalry.

Alabama and LSU are actual rivals.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22045 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:25 pm to
David Pollack quotes should get the same treatment as Bleacher Report links.

Dude is such a moron
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:27 pm to
It all depends on how you define "rivalry".

Seems like half of off season arguments are really about symantics.
Posted by DonDraper
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Member since Mar 2012
1407 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:30 pm to
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Tennessee haven't come within a few touchdowns of Alabama except about 3 times in combined 13 years.


Jesus, you need to pick up a book my man. I highly recommend "The 3rd Saturday in October".

You'll learn about how the rivalry started in the early 1900's with an on the field fight between the two fanbases over a bad call. While details on the game were very little, rumor has it that UA alumni/fans beat the shite out of over couple hundred hillbillies. Read about the legendary battles Neyland, and Bryant. Read up please.

Oh, way to just pass it off as "Fulmers little snitch". He and a group UT supporters/alums got together, and conspired to "put us out of business for good", as in death penalty. He came very close to having complete success, but came up just short which still crippled our program. And what really happened with Logan Young? Murder?

But lets forget all that because these past two years we've been competing with LSU head to head.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21569 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 2:09 pm to
Any perceived rivalry with the aggies is forced at this point in time, and by the aggies. They are so desperate to find a replacement for the Horns that they keep pushing this game as being their big game in the yrs to come. As well as trying to force their T.Giving Day game tradition as one that LSU needs to adopt because it's so cool. I agree with the poster who said a rivarly is defined, to an extent, by hate. When each fan base hates the other, translating to off the field BS AND the games are intensively competitive, you have a rival. The weenies used to be a rival, but the hate pretty much disappeared once their program became so pathetic. The same with the Black Bears when Coach Vaught was rolling. Fans hated each other. Now....meh...not so much, certainly nothing like it used to be.
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