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re: Please help me understand why Bama outranks Tennessee.

Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:44 pm to
I thought lsu had , as of today, lost 3 games? And Bama , as of today, lost 2 games.
And Vols have lost 2 games and their qb.

And as of today Bama has a chance(small chance) to play for the NC.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:03 pm to
Because they are now a better football team than Tennessee. Don’t you remember Hendon hooker is out for the year?
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:37 pm to
They would also have been Better on a neutral field.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Qualifying for seccg =/= being chosen for playoff
And that's the hypocrisy of it. If two teams have identical records and you choose the loser of the head-to-head over the winner, then you aren't deciding it on the field, are you.

This just illustrates the hypocrisy of a playoff, which is why I opposed it from before the BCS.

If you want a playoff for the purpose of deciding it on the field, you can't choose the teams to play for it with arbitrary measures. Isn't that what moved the public to demand a playoff in the first place?

If two teams have the same record (especially in this case where both are in the same conference) the head-to-head HAS TO BE the first tie-breaker, both for the SECCG and the playoffs.

Otherwise, why bother playing the games?
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 5:54 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:57 pm to
LSU wouldn’t be in at 12. Tulane would take that spot I believe as the highest ranked G5
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:10 pm to
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If two teams have identical records and you choose the loser of the head-to-head over the winner, then you aren't deciding it on the field, are you.


Yes because you are letting 12 games ON THE FIELD determine it. You are arguing to let 1 game do that.

Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

If two teams have identical records and you choose the loser of the head-to-head over the winner, then you aren't deciding it on the field, are you.



Yes because you are letting 12 games ON THE FIELD determine it. You are arguing to let 1 game do that.

What part of this
quote:

If two teams have identical records
did you not understand?
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:33 pm to
Tennessee got blown the frick out twice. Bama lost 2 close games to good teams.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:34 pm to
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Bama is also two plays away from 8-4. I despise that moronic argument


Tennessee is two plays away from being 8-4. I despise that moronic rebuttal to the Alabama argument.

Tennessee got throttled by South Carolina and beat soundly by Georgia. Bama barely lost on a FG and a two point play. If you cannot recognize the difference it is because you do not want to and it is urea too Al for us to try to rationalize with you.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 6:35 pm
Posted by gypsy2091
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:36 pm to
Omg someone who gets it! Well said!
Posted by gypsy2091
Member since Sep 2016
789 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:38 pm to
Bama had close games to this season. They did not play UGA. They had a weak schedule. More importantly, Tennessee.Beat.Alabama
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:52 pm to
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What part of this
quote:
If two teams have identical records
did you not understand?


I understand that a blowout loss is NOT the same as a last second loss if you use an ounce of critical thought. .

Not all losses are created equal.

Some are FAR worse than others and that must be acknowledged.

Vols had 2 BAD defeats. That should matter.

This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 6:53 pm
Posted by gypsy2091
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:59 pm to
14 points is not a bad defeat by a #1 team moron
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

What part of this
quote:
If two teams have identical records
did you not understand?



I understand that a blowout loss is NOT the same as a last second loss if you use an ounce of critical thought. .
And yet a team that lost 40-13 is going to the SECCG over an Alabama team that lost 2 games by a total of 4 points. How do you explain that?
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 7:05 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40166 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:06 pm to
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How do you explain that?


Not all championships are determined the same way, but you already knew that.
Posted by gypsy2091
Member since Sep 2016
789 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:09 pm to
You're right cuz if we were back to two teams it would be UGA and OSU if Michgan loses. It's all about $$$
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40166 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:10 pm to
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14 points is not a bad defeat by a #1 team moron


The committee understands the misleading nature of that final score.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:12 pm to
Power ranking that assumes that Tennessee without Hendon Hooker is worse than Alabama.

By a resume standpoint there's obviously no argument, but rankings aren't pure resume contests.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38954 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:18 pm to
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How do you explain that?



Not all championships are determined the same way, but you already knew that.
And that's why playoffs are a joke. If you aren't going to determine it on the field, then what's the point of a playoff?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40166 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:26 pm to
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And that's why playoffs are a joke.


Others could argue its a bigger joke that the conferences consider a 1 point loss to be the exact same as a 55 point loss.

They arent remotely close to the same if you have the ability to critically analyze the game of football beyond the surface.

The Vols should be punished for their 2 bad losses. All of the polls got that part right.
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