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re: Please help me understand why Bama outranks Tennessee.

Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by Tjtennispro
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:39 pm to
Georgia could’ve beat Tennessee by 40
Posted by Tjtennispro
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:40 pm to
Pitt was better than Tennessee
Posted by gypsy2091
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:40 pm to
And Bama lost to TN so they should be punished as well
Posted by Jumpinjack
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:43 pm to
Bama would be favored against all but maybe two teams ranked ahead of them. Name one team Tennessee would be favored over.
Posted by gypsy2091
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:45 pm to
All but UGA
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:46 pm to
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And Bama lost to TN so they should be punished as well


They were punished as well. Thats why they are ranked as low as they are ranked in all 3 polls.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:48 pm to
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Others could argue its a bigger joke that the conferences consider a 1 point loss to be the exact same as a 55 point loss.

They arent remotely close to the same if you have the ability to critically analyze the game of football beyond the surface.

Apparently the CFP Committee doesn't have that ability. They had a 2-loss team that lost 40-13 on their home field, ranked two spots ahead of Alabama, which lost two games by a combined 4 points - on the road.

Why do you think that was?

Hint: They won the head-to-head.

But just one week later, the rules changed. Now the head-to-head between two teams with identical records magically didn't matter anymore. New rules for this week.

Look, you can spin it all you want, head-to-head has always been the first tie-breaker in college football. Period. It's why LSU was ranked ahead of Alabama when both had the same record. It's why LSU is playing on Saturday and not Alabama.

But this week, when Alabama needed to be ahead of Tennessee to still have a shot at the playoffs, the rules were suddenly changed. Again, spin it any way you want, you're not fooling anyone....besides maybe yourself.

Posted by gypsy2091
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:49 pm to
If OSU had beat Michigan you know as well as i do Bama would be ranked over them. It's all about the money and OSU brings in alot.
Posted by AUWDE
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:51 pm to
Because Bama didn’t get their shite pushed in by South Carolina?

Because while Bama does have two losses like UT they both came down to the end and essentially one play? UT got owned in both their losses.

I don’t know why this is hard for you to comprehend. This isn’t a “tiebreaker”. They are not determining who the SEC east/west champ is. They are looking at the resumes on who the top 6-8 best teams are and ranking them as such.

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:51 pm to
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Bama would be favored against all but maybe two teams ranked ahead of them. Name one team Tennessee would be favored over.


How many points was Bama favored in its two losses?

Why bother playing the games if we're determining winners by what we think might happen?
Posted by Jumpinjack
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:54 pm to
I agree LSU never should have been ahead of Bama. But that is how the committee contradicts itself week to week. Also, the later you lose the lower you drop.

The committee tried to have a high rank matchup for the SECCG and LSU blew it.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:00 pm to
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I agree LSU never should have been ahead of Bama. But that is how the committee contradicts itself week to week. Also, the later you lose the lower you drop.

The committee tried to have a high rank matchup for the SECCG and LSU blew it.




LSU is playing Saturday. Bama is not. Who blew it?

How do Bammers keep their heads on their shoulders with all that spin?
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:01 pm to
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Apparently the CFP Committee doesn't have that ability. They had a 2-loss team that lost 40-13 on their home field, ranked two spots ahead of Alabama, which lost two games by a combined 4 points - on the road.

Why do you think that was?

Hint: They won the head-to-head.


Look at the dates. Timing has always played a role in CFB polls. Better to lose early than late.

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head-to-head has always been the first tie-breaker in college football.


Maybe when all else is equal, but all else was NOT equal in regards to Bama and UT due to the nature of the losses.

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But this week, when Alabama needed to be ahead of Tennessee to still have a shot at the playoffs, the rules were suddenly changed.


Bama was 2-3 spots AHEAD of the Vols BEFORE this week due to the SC blowout loss 2 weeks ago. Nothing suddenly changed.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:01 pm to
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14 points is not a bad defeat by a #1 team moron
Why do you guys keep repeating this? It was the equivalent of destroying a cupcake and then letting them score a TD in the final couple minutes with the 3rd string defense in the game. No one would look at that like it was a victory of any kind for the cupcake.

UGA dominated every aspect of the game and held your unstoppable offense (with a healthy Hooker) to two FGs until 4 minutes in the game when it was all but over. You guys make it seem like it was a close game. It wasn’t.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 8:05 pm
Posted by amders44
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:04 pm to
It’s because the committee thinks Bama is better than UT, end of story. They might be wrong but that’s the reason.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:13 pm to
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Apparently the CFP Committee doesn't have that ability. They had a 2-loss team that lost 40-13 on their home field, ranked two spots ahead of Alabama, which lost two games by a combined 4 points - on the road.

Why do you think that was?

Hint: They won the head-to-head.




Look at the dates. Timing has always played a role in CFB polls. Better to lose early than late.




Keep moving those goalposts.

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Bama was 2-3 spots AHEAD of the Vols BEFORE this week due to the SC blowout loss 2 weeks ago. Nothing suddenly changed.


And they had a chance to correct their error when Tenn. won 56-0 on the road, but chose not to.

But they made sure to drop LSU one spot behind FSU. Why? Because now both teams had the same record, and FSU won the head-to-head.

The rules don't apply when money is involved, and it always seems to involve Alabama. I'm sure that's purely coincidence.

Keep spinning brother, maybe you'll snatch a gig on mainstream media.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:13 pm to
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If OSU had beat Michigan you know as well as i do Bama would be ranked over them.


That we do NOT know, but considering 1 vs 2 losses, its highly doubtful.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:17 pm to
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Keep moving those goalposts.


You wanted to talk about how it always is, right? Adding layers to the discussion is not moving goal posts. Timing of losses has always mattered.

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And they had a chance to correct their error when Tenn. won 56-0 on the road, but chose not to.


Destroying Vandy didnt change anything, so nothing to correct.

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But they made sure to drop LSU one spot behind FSU. Why?


Because the LSU blowout loss to Aggies was a terrible loss. HOW YOU LOSE MATTERS. Always has. LSU and the Vols had bad losses and suffered the consequences in the final poll.
Posted by Shunface
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:28 pm to
Same argument LSU and Tennessee were using earlier. They had the benefit of LSU and Tennessee losing after them.

You have no one to blame but yourself for losing to 5&7.

It was a literal cakewalk for you and you went full retard.

Never go full retard.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:42 pm to
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Keep moving those goalposts.



You wanted to talk about how it always is, right? Adding layers to the discussion is not moving goal posts. Timing of losses has always mattered.

bullshite, you're not talking to someone who just saw his first football game this year.

Oklahoma got their asses handed to them by Kansas St. 35-7 in the 2003 Big 12 conference championship game. Their next game was the national championship game against LSU.

Why? Because the Rose Bowl wanted USC. So Oklahoma got to back into the national championship game.

Everyone knows it should have been LSU vs. USC that year.

Money drives the committee members, not wins and losses.

If TPTB want a certain team in the playoffs, the committee will come up with an excuse to put them in.

Sort of like what you're doing here.

This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 8:50 pm
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