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Playoff expansion is most certainly on the horizion
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:39 am
Nicole Auerbach has an article up in the Atlantic in which she talks to all 10 FBS conference commissioners. It's behind a paywall but the gist of it is that they are frustrated by the lack of parity and inability of smaller schools to be noticed by the Committee. She also talked to North Carolina head coach Mack Brown and he echoed their frustrations:
The writing's on the wall. There will be an expansion of some type within the next five years but instead of helping the G5, I think it'll hurt them. An eight team playoff would just allow a 10-2 Georgia or a 10-2 Alabama or a 10-2 Ohio State a chance to get in over a 12-0 Coastal Carolina.
The writing's on the wall. There will be an expansion of some type within the next five years but instead of helping the G5, I think it'll hurt them. An eight team playoff would just allow a 10-2 Georgia or a 10-2 Alabama or a 10-2 Ohio State a chance to get in over a 12-0 Coastal Carolina.
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:41 am to RollTide1987
If they do expand they need to incorporate byes into the mix. It would keep the regular season strong
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:41 am to RollTide1987
G5 needs their own playoff.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:42 am to RollTide1987
I didn't read anything of that because I was too distracted by the damn face shield in the picture 
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:42 am to RollTide1987
I don’t think it hurts the NCAA basketball tournament to have cannon fodder teams as the 14, 15 and 16 seeds every year.
Put a G5 team in against the #1 seed if none of the P5 entrants have a worse resume and see what happens.
There are rarely more than 4 teams that have any business playing for a championship, but integrating the NY6 with the playoffs isn’t going to hurt anything.
It probably won’t change things much either though from an outcome standpoint.
Put a G5 team in against the #1 seed if none of the P5 entrants have a worse resume and see what happens.
There are rarely more than 4 teams that have any business playing for a championship, but integrating the NY6 with the playoffs isn’t going to hurt anything.
It probably won’t change things much either though from an outcome standpoint.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 9:43 am
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:44 am to RollTide1987
A 12-0 Coastal Carolina would have been playing. Not because of their ranking because of the committees propensity to move teams up to a bubble spot that will get them in if they win out.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:48 am to RollTide1987
It's always going to be team left or G5 media darling. Regardless of expansion of playoffs those teams that would have been left out players will opt out of bowl games.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:49 am to RollTide1987
A simple solution for the lowly and downtrodden G-5:
FCS figured it out years ago. Start your own playoff stupid.
The mid-level teams are not in the power 5 class. So start your own, invite as many UCF, Memphis, and Cincy type teams you like. I guarantee you, from day one, it will already be more exciting than the crapfest we now call the Bowl season. I'm sure ESPN would love to televise it.
Do something that showcases your league and for once in your football life, find your place and celebrate it legitimately.
FCS figured it out years ago. Start your own playoff stupid.
The mid-level teams are not in the power 5 class. So start your own, invite as many UCF, Memphis, and Cincy type teams you like. I guarantee you, from day one, it will already be more exciting than the crapfest we now call the Bowl season. I'm sure ESPN would love to televise it.
Do something that showcases your league and for once in your football life, find your place and celebrate it legitimately.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:52 am to bamameister
They could even do a deal with some of the smaller bowls and play the late round playoff games at these locations.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:57 am to tide06
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There are rarely more than 4 teams that have any business playing for a championship
Exactly!
But hey, Coastal carolina deserves a shot at Bama
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:01 am to bamameister
G5 doing their own playoff hurts their conference. That essentially puts them back in D2/D3 territory.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:06 am to RollTide1987
I think it will happen.
Let us be honest here folks. The mid tier and poop tier bowl games aren't exactly getting moon landing numbers as far as viewers.
Now, let us say you have the 2nd ranked team in the playoffs playing the 7th ranked team in the Liberty Bowl. Does anyone doubt that would draw a few more viewers than the Liberty Bowl usually gets?
The FCS pulled off a 24 team playoff that finished with the top 2 teams at the end of the season meeting in the championship. If the FCS can pull off a 24 game playoff (and most FCS teams either had or came close to having a full 12 game regular season in 2019) than surely the FBS can do the same.
It would bump revenue up downstream. The Whatsamatta U bowl that used to feature 6-6 Nevada vs 7-5 Ball State might be looking at Texas Tech vs Auburn now.
Let us be honest here folks. The mid tier and poop tier bowl games aren't exactly getting moon landing numbers as far as viewers.
Now, let us say you have the 2nd ranked team in the playoffs playing the 7th ranked team in the Liberty Bowl. Does anyone doubt that would draw a few more viewers than the Liberty Bowl usually gets?
The FCS pulled off a 24 team playoff that finished with the top 2 teams at the end of the season meeting in the championship. If the FCS can pull off a 24 game playoff (and most FCS teams either had or came close to having a full 12 game regular season in 2019) than surely the FBS can do the same.
It would bump revenue up downstream. The Whatsamatta U bowl that used to feature 6-6 Nevada vs 7-5 Ball State might be looking at Texas Tech vs Auburn now.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:12 am to RollTide1987
Why expand the playoffs and have more playoffs?
Most years there are just 2-3 elite teams. Their hasn't even been 4 elite teams in the playoffs since the playoffs started.
Should just be 3 teams, with the 1 seed getting a bye.
Most years there are just 2-3 elite teams. Their hasn't even been 4 elite teams in the playoffs since the playoffs started.
Should just be 3 teams, with the 1 seed getting a bye.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:13 am to DuckTalesLOL
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G5 doing their own playoff hurts their conference. That essentially puts them back in D2/D3 territory.
And somehow you feel that they are prospering now? Just because a few talking heads will always complain about the mid-tiers lot in life during the season doesn't seem anywhere connected to the 13 members on the playoff committee who believe in SOS and the eye test.
I think there is a fine line between crashing the party and just crashing.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:19 am to Arksulli
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The FCS pulled off a 24 team playoff
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The field of 24 is split into two different qualifiers: 10 automatic and 14 at-large.
The automatic qualifiers are the teams that win one of the 10 conferences that receive automatic bids. The at-large qualifiers are selected by the FCS Playoff Selection Committee.
Once the full field of 24 teams is completed, the committee seeds the top eight teams.
The seeded teams receive a first-round bye in the tournament. The remaining 16 teams play first-round games and are paired according to geographic proximity and then placed in the bracket according to geographic proximity to the top eight seeds.
Teams cannot travel more than 400 miles via ground, and teams from the same conference that played each other during the regular season will not be paired for first-round games.
I was concerned about total number of games, but it looks like higher-seeded teams typically play a 12-game regular season, with four games in the playoffs (or only 16 games total).
Interesting.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:22 am to RollTide1987
fricking do away with the dumbass committee. The NFL has no committee. Your entry into the playoffs should be determined on the field via winning your conference. Period.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:24 am to paperwasp
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The automatic qualifiers are the teams that win one of the 10 conferences that receive automatic bids.
To follow this logically, I guess in our case you could split the current P5 conferences into their respective divisions (SEC West, SEC East) and take those "winners" as the 10 automatic qualifiers.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:26 am to RollTide1987
If the elite are getting better, how come you're not?
Maybe we need a separate league for the UNC's of the world?
They're basically saying we don't want Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, A&M, Ohio State competing in this.
I'm all for creating parity but it won't happen with the way the conferences are set up now. Are these conferences willing to dissolve? No.
With so many teams involved having multiple tiers probably makes sense. But this is not going to happen.
Expand the playoff field and the elite programs are more likely to get in and win it. How do they not understand this?
Maybe we need a separate league for the UNC's of the world?
They're basically saying we don't want Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, A&M, Ohio State competing in this.
I'm all for creating parity but it won't happen with the way the conferences are set up now. Are these conferences willing to dissolve? No.
With so many teams involved having multiple tiers probably makes sense. But this is not going to happen.
Expand the playoff field and the elite programs are more likely to get in and win it. How do they not understand this?
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:28 am to AUstar
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The NFL has no committee. Your entry into the playoffs should be determined on the field via winning your conference. Period.
This makes sense in the NFL, where the parity between the best and worst teams is more pronounced.
That might be harder in college with the current conference structure, unless there was some realignment.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 10:30 am
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:32 am to paperwasp
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This makes sense in the NFL, where the parity between the best and worst teams is more pronounced.
I agree the conferences aren't balanced in CFB like in the NFL where there's a draft. But if you put in the stipulation that you must win your conference, then you're clearly the best team in the conference (on the field at least). Why should #2 and #3 get in?
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