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re: Phil Steele's strength of schedule for the 2012 college football season.

Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by reb13
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:42 pm to
Any list with out us number 1 I don't believe. @uga @bama @lsu @ark and play UT. Think about that. The reigning sec east, sec west and national champion at THEIR place.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:44 pm to
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Of course Joker might hit his hit-the-door quota with it.


You can't fire Joker.

He stopped THE STREAK and is starting another one that will last into the next decade.
Posted by MedDawg
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:47 pm to
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There is only an 8 win from opponents difference between UGA and MSU, So yes ETA UGA SECe opponents games won 34 MSU SECw opponents games won 46


Math major?

Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:48 pm to
Love it.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:48 pm to
A&M and Ole Miss better go ahead and start preparing their anus right now. Gonna be a tough season for them
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:49 pm to
i want to create my own UGA hat, glasses, drink dude to do the hanson thing with
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:49 pm to
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Any list with out us number 1 I don't believe. @uga @bama @lsu @ark and play UT. Think about that. The reigning sec east, sec west and national champion at THEIR place.



playing them away actually helps. if not, you have to play the winnable games on the road.
This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 3:50 pm
Posted by reb13
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:51 pm to
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playing them away actually helps. if not, you have to play the winnable games on the road.


Haha true.
Posted by tickfawtiger
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:53 pm to
WHERE do you see UK playing @ LSU this season ?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:54 pm to
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7 MISSISSIPPI 98 59 62.42% 9 9


Texas, Texas A&M, @Bama, @LSU, @Arky.

Bring it the motha frick on frickers. Hell is about to Freeze over. We ain't scurred!









































Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:55 pm to
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Math major?

lulz

Fail.

Opponents differential =/= only SEC opponents

ETA: I'll help you out.

MSU
Opponent wins = 83
SECW Opponent wins (AU,UA,UA,LSU,UM) = 46

UGA
Opponent wins = 75
SECE Opponent wins (UT,VU,USC,UF,UK) = 34


Opponent difference = 83 - 75 = 8
This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 3:59 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:57 pm to
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A&M and Ole Miss better go ahead and start preparing their anus right now. Gonna be a tough season for them





already gaping from last season...
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:58 pm to
Why is Bama's low? LSU and Arky on the road + Michigan...those teams will lose no more than two games. Hell, two of them may only be one loss teams at the end of the season.


Edit: Well, this could be going off last season now that I look at it...

Anyway, we'll have a top 15-20 schedule.
This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 4:02 pm
Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 3:59 pm to
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1 TEXAS A&M 105 51 67.31% 11 9


prepare for the chainsaw dick


This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:04 pm to
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A&M and Ole Miss better go ahead and start preparing their anus right now.


We've already been trying out 5th base in preparation.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:11 pm to
Yes it goes off last season's records. From the link in the OP:

quote:

At the beginning of the season, the NCAA usually releases a rating of each team’s schedule based on their opponents’ win/loss record from the previous season, This is a good method but it does have its obvious flaws.


The first flaw is basing the ratings on opponents records from the previous season. Let’s look at a couple of examples. At the start of 2007 I had Illinois rated as one of the top teams in the Big Ten and they went on to knock off #1 Ohio St and play in the ROSE Bowl. My ratings had them as an above avg opponent at the start of the year and they finished the regular season #13 (AP). Using 2006’s record as the criteria for determining the strength of an opponent’s schedule, however, you would count them as a 2-10 team! In 2008, I had teams like Ole Miss and Minnesota on my Most Improved Teams List meaning I thought they were bowl caliber but using the previous year’s record you would have counted them as 3-9 and 1-11 teams (both made bowls, Ole Miss finished #14). On the flip side of the coin, Notre Dame was in an obvious rebuilding year in ’07 yet was still counted as a 10-3 team if you based strength of schedule on 2006’s record and they were far from a January bowl team in 2007 at just 3-9!


The second flaw is basing it on pure overall records. If a team plays an FCS (IAA) school that was 11-1 in 2007, that counts as a MUCH tougher game in the NCAA ratings than facing a team like Alabama who was 7-6 in ‘07 but #1 at the end of ‘08 regular season! My ratings had Bama ranked as a much tougher team than any FCS foe. To give you an example from 2002, my ratings foresaw that teams playing Kansas St were facing a Top 10 team based on my preseason ratings. The NCAA strength of schedule ranking rated a game against Kansas St as just a game vs a 6-6 opp (2001 record). Kanas St finished #7 AP for 2002 and walloped their opp’s by an avg of 45-12, not exactly numbers from a typical middle-of-the-road opponent.

On the flip side let’s look at 2009’s Ball St team. They were in an obvious rebuilding year and my power ratings had them only winning 2 or 3 games. My methods gave teams credit for a weak foe when facing Ball St but basing it on the previous year’s record, teams were given credit for playing a 12-2 team which is what they finished in 2008! That is a MAJOR flaw!


The main thing bringing down Bama's SOS is that their cupcakes were really, really bad cupcakes. Their records last year:

Western Carolina: 1-10
FAU: 1-11
Western Kentucky: 7-5
Total: 9-26

Contrast that to A&M who plays an FCS school that went 14-1 and you see why A&M has such a higher SOS than Bama even though they don't play a really good OOC opponent and Bama does.

But like you said, when it's all said and done I expect Bama to have a top 20 SOS.
This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 4:31 pm
Posted by AU13
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:35 pm to
We play all those plus bama.
Posted by leoj
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:46 pm to
as just stated, our number is inflated because sam houston state went 14-1 last year. still a top 15 schedule.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:48 pm to
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@uga @bama @lsu @ark and play UT.


quote:

We play all those plus bama.


Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 4:53 pm to
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Why is Bama's low?


because it goes off the win/loss totals of last season. The better your record was the year before, the worse your opponents record was (since you gave them more losses).

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