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re: PFF Season Grades for FBS QBs
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:09 pm to Kcstills17
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:09 pm to Kcstills17
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Pff has Lawrence at number 2? Man that shows all you need to know about them
Where should he have been? Who should have been ahead of him?
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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So Georgia got worse at QB going from #8 Fromm to #16 Newman?
Most likely, however it's a damn bit better to have #16 than relying on a true FR or a former walk on.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:12 pm to so_comfort
Obviously a guy like tua. I thought pff scaled for competition? Even with the competition Lawrence never looked nearly as good as being actually efficient as other top qbs. You see how many inaccurate throws he had against LSU? That’s not rare he just played awful teams
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:14 pm to Kcstills17
And as far as where Lawrence should rank? I’d say 10-20 range sounds about right
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:16 pm to so_comfort
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49. JOHN RHYS PLUMLEE, MATT CORRAL – OLE MISS
Preseason Rank: 50; Week 6 Rank: 63; Week 12 Rank: 48
OK stupid question: how does PFF project a true freshman qb who was not supposed to start to be number 50 when most schools didn't even recruit him as a qb?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:16 pm to Kcstills17
Tua would have been ahead if he didn't get injured down the stretch. These grades were team based for the QB position, not solely individual rankings. Jones brought Bama down a peg.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:17 pm to Kcstills17
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And as far as where Lawrence should rank? I’d say 10-20 range sounds about right
You aren't very good at evaluating QBs then
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:17 pm to so_comfort
If you play in the ACC it drastically, immediately helps your statistics -- PFF clearly doesn't take SoS into account.
They played zero ranked team in the entire regular season.
Considering only the Regular Season:
Florida played more top 4 teams than they played ranked teams.
You guys seriously don't understand how bad the ACC was this year.
Trask on the road threw for 50+ yards more, had more TD passes, a better QB Rating and significantly higher completion percentage than Lawrence had on a neutral site against LSU.
PFF fails in that it doesn't account for SoS.
I mean, shite, Newman is super high on the list even though almost 50% of his games he completed less than 50% of his passes.
They played zero ranked team in the entire regular season.
Considering only the Regular Season:
Florida played more top 4 teams than they played ranked teams.
You guys seriously don't understand how bad the ACC was this year.
Trask on the road threw for 50+ yards more, had more TD passes, a better QB Rating and significantly higher completion percentage than Lawrence had on a neutral site against LSU.
PFF fails in that it doesn't account for SoS.
I mean, shite, Newman is super high on the list even though almost 50% of his games he completed less than 50% of his passes.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:20 pm to RebelExpress38
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OK stupid question: how does PFF project a true freshman qb who was not supposed to start to be number 50 when most schools didn't even recruit him as a qb?
They're grading each team's QB play, not individual QB's hence why many teams have more than one guy listed
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:21 pm to so_comfort
OK that makes sense thank you
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Trask on the road threw for 50+ yards more, had more TD passes, a better QB Rating and significantly higher completion percentage than Lawrence had on a neutral site against LSU.
You aren't seriously trying to argue Trask is better than Lawrence are you?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Trask is a much better QB
You might be right. Will he be the best option at QB for Florida next season?
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and everyone knows it
Well. Now you are full of shite.
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Trask had more completions than Jamie, and we were in a few shootouts. He also had a higher completion percentage, only threw one less TD (keep in mind he replaced Franks and split snaps all season with Emory).
You watched Trask more than I did. So you should be the expert on him. But from what I saw and from comments by LSU fans, Trask was extremely conservative and not explosive at all.
By how Trask played against UGA and LSU, comparing Trask to Newman (who is very explosive) is like comparing apples and oranges. Matt Stafford regularly completed 50% of his passes but he took shots all game long. Trask:Newman is Apples:Oranges.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:29 pm to so_comfort
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You aren't seriously trying to argue Trask is better than Lawrence are you?
https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-score-board/trask-scared-me-more-than-this-dude/88019584/
LSU fans played them both, ask them who they think is better.
It doesn't explain how Trask can go into Death Valley and beat Lawrence in every single passing category available.
But then again, you guys are hanging your hat on a guy who threw for less than 50% in five games in the ACC, so I guess I'll have to take your opinions with a grain of salt.
You guys are also the same fan base who laughed at me when I said Fromm wasn't that good of a QB.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:31 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
So your evidence is some rando corndogs talking shite on a message board? I've seen it all now. The delusion is real.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:40 pm to so_comfort
Make a thread, I guarantee you will not like the answer.
I don't know what else you want to say: Trask faced multiple tough defenses, played 3 ranked teams in the regular season (two away from home).
Lawrence didn't play a ranked team until the ACC Championship and when they played LSU they had similar results as we did (we scored more points).
I don't know what you want me to say.
I don't know what else you want to say: Trask faced multiple tough defenses, played 3 ranked teams in the regular season (two away from home).
Lawrence didn't play a ranked team until the ACC Championship and when they played LSU they had similar results as we did (we scored more points).
I don't know what you want me to say.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:45 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Ok. You seem quite firm in your assessment. Tell you what. The ultimate judge will be the NFL draft. Let's make a bet. I'll take Lawrence and you take Trask. Whoever is drafted first wins.
I'll accept any stakes you care to wager.
I'll accept any stakes you care to wager.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:49 pm to so_comfort
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Ok. You seem quite firm in your assessment. Tell you what. The ultimate judge will be the NFL draft. Let's make a bet. I'll take Lawrence and you take Trask. Whoever is drafted first wins.
I'll accept any stakes you care to wager.
Tebow wasn't an NFL QB but he's arguably one of the best College QBs of our time.
Apples to oranges and all that jazz.
Here's another bet: I bet you won't admit that Trask beat Trevor in every single passing category available against a common opponent in LSU.
I will also wager that you don't think playing @LSU is significantly more difficult than playing at a neutral site.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:53 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Thanks for confirming you don't actually believe the BS you're spewing
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:54 pm to so_comfort
See how you didn't take my bet?
I'm sorry Trask out threw Lawrence against a like opponent.
I'm sorry Jamie Newman couldn't get 100 yards passing against Syracuse. This isn't my fault.
I'm sorry LSU thinks Trask is better.
I'm sorry Trask out threw Lawrence against a like opponent.
I'm sorry Jamie Newman couldn't get 100 yards passing against Syracuse. This isn't my fault.
I'm sorry LSU thinks Trask is better.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:57 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
The delusion is real.
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