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re: PFF : SEC's 5 best defensive players through 5 weeks

Posted on 10/5/18 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 4:54 pm to
What? No LSU players?

Garbage list.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 4:55 pm to
And maybe I am digging into it too much here, but for DBs, do they determine what they think should or shouldn't have been called pass interference, or is it results based?

Say Greedy covers a guy textbook coverage and gets called for a phantom PI vs him holding a WR and not getting called. How are those graded? Cause the results are the opposite of how the DB actually played, if that makes sense.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 4:58 pm to
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Not sure what your point is.

he doesn't have one. the truth is so painful for them at this point he has to grasp at straws like that.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83398 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 5:07 pm to
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the truth is so painful for them at this point he has to grasp at straws like that.
Just wait until they finish 8-4
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 5:07 pm to
Their signature stats or whatever they call them are great. The grading system is trash.
Posted by DuckTalesLOL
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2018
6055 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 5:32 pm to
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Title should read PFF Top-Graded Players vs FCS and G5 opponents.....


Arkansas has played Auburn and A&M this year already... those aren't FCS or G5 opponents.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 5:39 pm to
I hate we will probably only get a full dose of Quinnen this year breaking into people's houses and stealing they laptops and laundry detergent.
This post was edited on 10/5/18 at 5:39 pm
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 5:40 pm to
I mean, its like Greedy Williams is a top 10 NFL pick next year not on the list, because he is that good he is left alone most of the game.

Those players are certainly good, but for sure Grant Delpit is fricking letting is sack hang this year. Dude will for sure be 1st round top 15 next year. Dude is THAT good.

Its all good. The pros know who we have at each level.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10545 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 5:41 pm to
Does PFF compensate for strength of schedule? You know since Bama hasnt played a half decent team all season...
Posted by NATidefan
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35935 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 7:04 pm to
Not being a prick but has Delpits outstanding plays been on special teams or have most of them come from the safety position? Maybe that’s why he didn’t make the list.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 7:15 pm to
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Do you feel like a few plays really skew their results/grades? You can get a +-2.0 on a play. That is a pretty strong variance.

Or is it really about consistency and not screwing up that sorts these out?




I honestly don't know. Certainly don't endorse all of it, just find them interesting.
This post was edited on 10/5/18 at 7:17 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 7:16 pm to
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Does PFF compensate for strength of schedule? You know since Bama hasnt played a half decent team all season...


Alabama has played 2 top 25 offenses
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16626 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 7:53 pm to
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Not being a prick but has Delpits outstanding plays been on special teams


Not being a prick, but do you even watch football?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 7:56 pm to
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How can there seriously be an Armon Watts and an Armani Watts at the same time in the SEC?



The same way we had a Jalen Hurd and a Jalen Hurts.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19041 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 8:05 pm to
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I totally agree. Sometimes I don't get their grades at all.

For instance, Alex Hornibrook is their #5 national QB. Similarly, I've watched Delpit and he seems to be in on every play.

But it's interesting nontheless.


I am usually not too high on these lists because there are more worthy players than the spaces on the list. Also, most people dont get to see all the players.

I would just say that Devin White would not be on the list because his numbers are not what they were last season... why, because he has a lot of help in Jacob Phillips next to him. He still would be my first pick if I was making up a team. He is that guy that pulls LSU's wagon.

Delpit is playing as good or better than any safety I have seen this season. He is truly having that breakout year.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 8:43 pm to
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Not sure what your point is.


Oh you know what his point is.


Two Alabama players on the list automatically means the list is crap.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 8:47 pm to
100% plays on D.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25538 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 9:17 pm to
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I honestly don't know. Certainly don't endorse all of it, just find them interesting.


Doing some reading and it seems to emphasize 2 things.

1) consistency and not taking plays off. The reality is that fewer snaps could help this score versus someone who is on the field for 60 snaps. It is hard to go 100% for 4 quarters without a break.

2) havoc plays. Again, fewer snaps may make this a higher percentage of plays.

This is a per play score. Being tired in the 4th quarter will have a negative effect.
Posted by SlowurRole
Arabi
Member since Dec 2011
797 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 9:43 pm to
Josh Allen is a beast! Best player on the list
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