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re: Paul Finebaum Names Coach Who's 'Emerged' as One of The Top SEC Coaches

Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:54 pm to
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Look at what Drinkwitz had on his roster. Before he was hired as the Missouri football HC, there were only a few 4* players on the whole roster.


So that's how many scholarship players when he arrived?? Y'all like to shite on BK, and that's your right, but i don't think any current SEC HC took over a program that was as bad as LSU was post CEO.


Still by far better than what Missouri had. Not by having a lesser roster but a lot more 4* players and 5* players. That is how far down the Missouri roster had been. Drinkwitz has made huge upgrades compared to what he had to seal with when he got to Missouri. The new transfer portal rule change and the NIL have made the difference to Mizzou that has elevated the football program. I am happy what Drinkwitz has done so far and seeing the football program moving in the right direction.
Posted by TigerScorpion
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2018
1159 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:00 pm to
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Not really I think Mizzou should be higher but he isn't one I like because he didn't put Mizzou higher last year either and he was wrong.


He is wrong, because Mizzou doesn’t belong anywhere near mid pack. That’s a bottom feeder.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:00 pm to
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Mostly because you played a weaker schedule, not because you were actually better.

Look at 2024, you were basically LSU just playing a weaker schedule. You performed very similarly vs common opponents.

LSU lost to unranked USCw, unranked Texas A&M, and unranked Florida. Mizzou only lost to one unranked team and that was Texas A&M. Another way to look at this is coaching. Drinkwitz was able to go 10-3 with a weaker roster than LSU with a one of the top 15 roster. You see what I did? No excuses for losing to those three unranked teams. BK is the HC and don't tell me he isn't the problem. He failed to get it done this past season. Now this is a new year and yes I have seen that LSU has improved the roster even more. There should be zero excuses for LSU not making the playoffs this coming season.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 11:10 pm
Posted by MIZ58
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:08 pm to
I think Drink can be good. NIL leveled some of the playing field to an extent, but to be the best, gotta beat the best. He needs a signature win or three. Cotton Bowl doesn't count. He whiffed last year. This is not to say it cannot happen, I think we can sneak up on some folks with the talent on the roster, but the talent on the roster on paper isn't anywhere close to UGA, BAMA and others. And so much depends on QB...if Pribula ends up like Heisman stud level, that changes everything...but we really don't know what we have in QB yet.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16873 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:21 pm to
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I think Drink can be good. NIL leveled some of the playing field to an extent, but to be the best, gotta beat the best. He needs a signature win or three. Cotton Bowl doesn't count. He whiffed last year. This is not to say it cannot happen, I think we can sneak up on some folks with the talent on the roster, but the talent on the roster on paper isn't anywhere close to UGA, BAMA and others. And so much depends on QB...if Pribula ends up like Heisman stud level, that changes everything...but we really don't know what we have in QB yet.

I guess the quarterback isn't an upgrade over Cook? He is a 4* transfer. Cook was never going to be ranked as a 4* player. Plus Drinkwitz was able to fill the holes and got key transfers to replace the ones that left. Did you know Drinkwitz had to replace the DC and DL coach before the start of last season? That was huge and he did a great job replacing those two coaches that left to go to LSU. The team didn't lose more than 3 games last year and that was a sign that he is doing a great job. This year the coaching staff is pretty set and should help to build off from last year's experience. How much more do I need to explain? The transfer 4* quarterback is similar to Cook but has a better arm and is a better player overall than Cook. Then there is Horn. He might start. I have no idea. Drinkwitz will have his starting quarterback ready for this coming season.
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Posted by flagshipuniversity
Camden SC, Charlotte NC
Member since Jul 2024
460 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:04 am to
Do you guys spend all day searching Google for..."Mizzou anything" and then pull the good things out? I mean geez....the things you guys use to support your narrative is mindboggling.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7543 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 5:03 am to
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Look at 2024, you were basically LSU just playing a weaker schedule. You performed very similarly vs common opponents.


So did Kelly bring LSU down to the “Missouri-level”, ….. or did Drinkwitz bring Mizzou up to the “LSU-level” ?

I read it to mean that Drinkwitz has quietly improved the Mizzou program over the past few seasons.

And I believe that’s true. He has worked hard to re-engage a cadre of Boosters that had distanced themselves from their University following radical elements leading up to and throughout the so-called “Summer of Love” /BLM riots. That really hurt Mizzou, a real black eye for the program.

Drinkwitz has somehow managed to overcome that and build a positive culture. It appears Drinkwitz recovered them just in time for the NIL era.

2020 5-5
2021 6-6
2022 6-6
2023 10-2 (beat OSU in the Cotton Bowl)
2024 10-3

I’d say he has them on the right track … including a decent recruiting class heading into 2025.

I met him a couple of times when he an assistant under Malzahn at AU. Dude has always been a bit of a goofball, but it’s fair to say he’s a very serious coach.

I’m just glad we play them @home this season …. mebbe well conjure up some of the Jordan-Hare Magic we used last time . Definitely should not be overlooked on the schedule….. just my dos centavos
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
20927 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 5:56 am to
Whoa! There's no place for a reasoned, factual post in a thread about Missouri.
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2175 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 6:44 am to
Fbomb fellated Drink all last offseason too. We saw how that turned out out.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7543 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:04 am to
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We saw how that turned out out.


How did it turn out?
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:37 am to
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Still by far better than what Missouri had.


You've gotta be dumb. BK had like 30 players when he got to LSU. But I guess you're one that think star ratings is everything, LOL. Well look.... 2* Justin Jefferson just torched tOSU again.
Posted by LetItBe
Columbia, MO
Member since Apr 2022
556 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:12 am to
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After three consecutive losing seasons


Not three. Just two. 2021 and 2022.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16873 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:30 am to
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Fbomb fellated Drink all last offseason too. We saw how that turned out out.

Do you realize many have predicted Mizzou to go 6-5 or 7-5 few said 8-4. Once again Drinkwitz did better. One reason there was a setback. New DC and new DL coach. Remember Kelly hired Matt House? How did that go for LSU? BK has a lot of experience as a HC. No excuses for allowing that to happen. Now after taking Missouri DC and DL coach late after the bowl game. Many LSU fans were saying Mizzou would go 7-5 or 6-6 few said 8-4. Also LSU fans said LSU will end up ranked higher than Missouri. That never happened. Drinkwitz has done more with less. This season Missouri should end the regular season 10-2 or 9-3. no less than 3 losses in the regular season.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 9:39 am
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:40 am to
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TrueLefty



Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16460 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:00 am to
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Do you realize many have predicted Mizzou to go 6-5 or 7-5 few said 8-4.


I don't think it was a growing concern in the first place and having the QB and all-world receiver back for another go-around created a ton of preseason optimism. The biggest concern most of us heard was replacing an outstanding RB. There was plenty of expectation and 8-4 was a big step back from the previous season. DC or no DC.
Posted by TigerScorpion
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2018
1159 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:27 am to
Missouri should change their mascot to a Catfish.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Your Mom’s house
Member since Dec 2024
540 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:58 am to
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Well look.... 2* Justin Jefferson just torched tOSU again.


This does not compute
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61034 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Do you realize many have predicted Mizzou to go 6-5 or 7-5 few said 8-4. 


This is a lot of sad revisionist history.

The over/under for 2024 Mizzou was set at 9.5, you were picked as a darkhorse playoff contender by several analysts.

Multiple things can be true at one time, Drinkwitz has done a great job of getting the program to where it is, you also played a very weak schedule.

Who was your best win? 7-6 Vandy?
Posted by Mizzouligan
St. Louis, MO
Member since Aug 2014
1596 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:55 pm to
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So did Kelly bring LSU down to the “Missouri-level”, ….. or did Drinkwitz bring Mizzou up to the “LSU-level” ?

I read it to mean that Drinkwitz has quietly improved the Mizzou program over the past few seasons.

And I believe that’s true. He has worked hard to re-engage a cadre of Boosters that had distanced themselves from their University following radical elements leading up to and throughout the so-called “Summer of Love” /BLM riots. That really hurt Mizzou, a real black eye for the program.

Drinkwitz has somehow managed to overcome that and build a positive culture. It appears Drinkwitz recovered them just in time for the NIL era.

2020 5-5
2021 6-6
2022 6-6
2023 10-2 (beat OSU in the Cotton Bowl)
2024 10-3

I’d say he has them on the right track … including a decent recruiting class heading into 2025.

I met him a couple of times when he an assistant under Malzahn at AU. Dude has always been a bit of a goofball, but it’s fair to say he’s a very serious coach.

I’m just glad we play them @home this season …. mebbe well conjure up some of the Jordan-Hare Magic we used last time . Definitely should not be overlooked on the schedule….. just my dos centavos


Very rational and thoughtful response. Well done. That’s unusual on this forum.

I was at that game three years ago when Mizzou’s all-conference kicker missed a chip shot to win it, and then their RB fumbled the winning TD out of the end zone in OT.

Brutal way to lose.

But I’ve been going to Mizzou games since 1984 when I was a student there. Mizzou has been inventing new and unusually painful ways to lose for a very long time.

Drink has done an amazing job of significantly improving the talent and he’s really engaged the big money boosters to jump in on NIL.

Missouri is not an easy place to build a winner.

Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Your Mom’s house
Member since Dec 2024
540 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Missouri is not an easy place to build a winner.


You can add some of your neighboring states to that list, like Illinois, Iowa and Arkansas too. Seems like Illinois has a decent find with Bert but who knows how long that is sustainable. Iowa is stuck with an old oligarch who likes to control everything with Ferentz. Arkansas needs to replace tit boss. Missouri might be in the best spot off those schools. Drink wits was a solid hire
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