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re: Outside of Vandy is Harsin and Freeze the worst back to back hires in SEC history?

Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:41 pm to
He couldn’t recruit the south.

He did recruit this however:

Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16092 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:48 pm to
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Muschamp and Beamer



Beamer’s had 3 winning seasons in 4 years and is 2-1 in bowls.

Auburn’s last winning season was 2020 and they haven’t won a bowl since 2018.

South Carolina won 5 SEC games last year. Auburn won 6 in Freeze’s entire tenure.

If Freeze had merely produced the same results as Beamer, he’d still be Auburn’s coach tonight,
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:54 pm to
Let me bitch dammit
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16092 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:56 pm to
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although McElwain somehow did win an East Division title.


He won two then got fired at the end of year 3.

Kind of like Bill Curry at Alabama. He had good success but was 0-3 vs FSU.


Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
Member since Jun 2012
3312 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:59 pm to
Mike Price & Mike Shula was pretty bad. One guy didn’t even win a single game.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:59 pm to
Yep even with our crappy hires Napier was the first to totally crap the bed. Most of the rest except Zook at least had some double digit win seasons due to us having a good defense that year
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 8:01 pm
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10308 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:59 pm to
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Outside of Vandy is Harsin and Freeze the worst back to back hires in SEC history?


Don’t know about back to back but Mike Price at Alabama was a pretty bad hire.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7104 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 8:24 pm to
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Mike Price


He was a good hire on paper.

Then, you know, titties.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
5813 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 8:26 pm to
Derek Dooley - Butch Jones
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1965 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 8:31 pm to
Post Stallings at Bama was pretty damn bad.
Posted by Xignals
Pits of Hell
Member since Nov 2013
1586 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 8:37 pm to
Pussy STILL undefeated.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21566 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 8:50 pm to
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Harsin was by far the worst. At least Freeze recruited and left us with a fairly decent roster.

Well, he wasn't provided much incentive to stay in the hell hole created from the onset. Maybe, the man just said frick it and rode it out to a paycheck because of the incompetence and interference.

And, by your logic, Freeze produced similar results with huge NIL and recruiting investments. So, is Harsin a genius to stick it to the man while Hugh was incompetent with a better roster and investment of resources?
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21566 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:03 pm to
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Post Stallings at Bama was pretty damn bad.

I'd bet the # of 10 win seasons, Division Titles and SEC CG wins are pretty close to AU from 1996-2006, which is the worst period since the 50s for Alabama.

It would be like someone in 1975 saying, well those Ears Whitworth years sucked for Bama.

Simple fact is the Mike years did suck, but in aggregate they were still what a lot of SEC programs would settle for.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1545 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6157 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:07 pm to
Butch was a good hire until the wheels just completely fell off in 2017.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21566 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:10 pm to
A better LSU team softened them up for the IB.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
18708 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:12 pm to
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Tommy Tuberville 1995-1998 25-20-0

David Cutcliffe 1998-2004 44-29

Ed Orgeron 2005-2007 10-25

Houston Nutt 2008-2011 24-26


Hugh Freeze 2012-2016 35-19


I've underlined the coaches with special needs. Hell Tubberville was in Oxford while we were on probation.
Nutt was 18-8 after two years
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19304 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:13 pm to
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At least Freeze recruited and left us with a fairly decent roster.


Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26475 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:14 pm to
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Derek Dooley - Butch Jones

Orange pants and Game of Life. Those were some weird years in Knoxville.
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