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re: “Outbreak occurred mainly among vaccinated athletes”
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:19 pm to StadiumDormRat'72
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:19 pm to StadiumDormRat'72
Covidians are a strange cult.
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:26 pm to Tigerman97
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This is a message board. That's abut 90% of the post and probably 99% of the antivax nonsense spewed on this board.
I agree he doesn't know the status of the players. However we do know only 29% of people fully vaccinated got a booster. We also know that number skews older. So it isn't crazy to assume if they got a MRNA vaccine or the J&J shot that they aren't boosted. It's just deductive reasoning. The problem with the world now is there is truth and the other version of info people accept as truth. Understanding truth is required to deductively reason.
It's not deductive reasoning, it's making shite up.
You have no idea what vaccine the players who have covid have, you have no idea how many booster shots they have had.
Actual deductive reasoning realizes that he couldn't possibly have that information, and that the entire basis of his post was bullshite.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:28 pm to StadiumDormRat'72
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FIFY, plague-rat
I'm vaccinated against the plague, I bet you are not.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:30 pm to HotRock
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The flu vaccine is an every year thing and lots of people take them but they only range in effectiveness from 40-70% in a given year. Some won't take it but to say they don't help is a lie.
Corona isn't a flu virus. The Corona viruses are FAR larger RNA virus. It is a COMPLETELY different animal. I invite you to read up on it. A single mutation to the MUCH smaller flu virus changes it by a much larger percentage making it much harder for our immune systems to recognize a new flu strain. This is the reason you have to have a flue shot every year because they take an educated guess as to which strains will be in the wild ever year. And sometimes they guess wrong.
The mRNA vaccines are only targeting the spike protein. The are NOT presenting a full picture of the virus to your immune system. Period. Therefor cannot be as effective as a traditional vaccine. And they are proving that every day now. In fact, they should not even be called vaccines! Go read upon that little side story. Also, the mRNA tech was never successful in any animal study for the SAME exact reasons. Again, don't take my word for it. Read up on it.
I had COVID a year an a half ago. Since then, I have had 7 serologic tests (I gave blood for convalescent plasma and they tested each time) that showed both IGM and IGG antibodies scoring over 300 each for the original Alpha strain. Meaning I have had NO "breakthrough" infections of Delta or Omicron. A year and a half!!! THAT is what natural immunity does, folks. And I have been living life like normal since I was infected. I have gone to many so called "super spreader" events too. And I don't wear a fricking mask either. If you can still smell a fart with a mask on, good luck with that covid thing!!!
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:43 pm to 3down10
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You have no idea what vaccine the players who have covid have, you have no idea how many booster shots they have had.
Actual deductive reasoning realizes that he couldn't possibly have that information, and that the entire basis of his post was bullshite.
I never said I did...I said it is plausible based on the spring vaccine narrative that young athletes likely chose the J&J shot.
It is also statistically likely most athletes didn't get a booster based simply on data. The reasons are multiple. 1) at first boosters were only going to be needed for older or at risk 2) then they weren't 3) an athlete has to run the risk of a negative reaction for a day or two from the vaccine in season.
I clearly have no idea, but it is deductive reasoning to suggest the info suggested.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:46 pm to 3down10
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Look what’s next…. Would not be surprised at all when this becomes mandatory here also…
I can already hear it now “seriously though, frick anyone who refuses getting this in their arm because they read something on FB or aunt Trudy said it”….
Eventually those types of people are going to be embarrassed when they realize that old Aunt Trudy was right, and that just bc the media says someone is an expert on something, that doesn’t mean that everything they claim is factual and accurate.
Look what’s next…. Would not be surprised at all when this becomes mandatory here also…
I can already hear it now “seriously though, frick anyone who refuses getting this in their arm because they read something on FB or aunt Trudy said it”….
Eventually those types of people are going to be embarrassed when they realize that old Aunt Trudy was right, and that just bc the media says someone is an expert on something, that doesn’t mean that everything they claim is factual and accurate.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:47 pm to miracleman
We cannot vaccine your way out of Covid. If you believe it came from animals (whether helped by man or not), you would have to vaccine every animal on the planet. Covid virus has been found in bats, deer, humans, etc.
The reason Polio and Small Pox vaccines were effective (and virtually killed the disease) is that there are no animal reservoirs meaning no animals but man can carry the disease.
They call the flu shot the flu shot for a reason.....Because it is not a vaccine. It should be called the Covid shot not a vaccine. It should be a personal choice whether you take a covid shot or not. Do your own research and make a decision. Either way, if you believe the shot works, you are protected from the people that chose not to take it.
The reason Polio and Small Pox vaccines were effective (and virtually killed the disease) is that there are no animal reservoirs meaning no animals but man can carry the disease.
They call the flu shot the flu shot for a reason.....Because it is not a vaccine. It should be called the Covid shot not a vaccine. It should be a personal choice whether you take a covid shot or not. Do your own research and make a decision. Either way, if you believe the shot works, you are protected from the people that chose not to take it.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:51 pm to AG87
This garbage will continue on as long as these dipshit losers like Biden fauci koala Harris are in office. The afraid of their own shadow liberal dipshits are a bigger plague than any plandemic and they keep supporting this vax me baby bullshite while being triple masked
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:54 pm to Tigerman97
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I never said I did...I said it is plausible based on the spring vaccine narrative that young athletes likely chose the J&J shot.
It is also statistically likely most athletes didn't get a booster based simply on data. The reasons are multiple. 1) at first boosters were only going to be needed for older or at risk 2) then they weren't 3) an athlete has to run the risk of a negative reaction for a day or two from the vaccine in season.
I clearly have no idea, but it is deductive reasoning to suggest the info suggested.
It's not deductive reasoning. It's having a bias and then making up excuses to support it.
I used deductive reasoning to see that he was full of shite. I deduced that since all those medical records are private, it is impossible for the data he is posting to be accurate. I also see that since he is not using factual information, his acceptance and need to make things up means he is looking for excuses to protect he previous biases/world view.
We can further deduce that those of you who up voted him and have chosen to defend the false data shows that you also needed those excuses to defend your existing view/bias.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:55 pm to TRUERockyTop
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That's a fricking lie and his been disproven in this thread.
"Disproven." Funny.
[link=(What did Fauci Say?)]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/18/fact-check-fauci-supports-covid-19-vaccines-and-booster-shots/8636827002/[/link]
[link=(What did Biden say?)]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-get-covid/[/link]
tl;dr -- Whil Biden did mistakenly say that the vaccine would prevent COVID, in the same speech, he correctly said " If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die." Which is pretty much true.
Also, the fact that a vaccine can lose effectiveness over time is well-established. Boosters are recommended for a variety of diseases other than COVID, such as pneumonia and tetanus. The need for boosters is not proof that a vaccine is ineffective.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:57 pm to 3down10
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To be fair, almost all of them are vaccinated so it has no choice but to be that.
To be fair, there shouldn't be a breakout at all if the vaccine was effective, even at 50%.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:58 pm to 3down10
Exactly. That’s why this game should not be canceled. There is no risk to the players. There is basically no risk to unvaccinated college athletes and there sure as frick no risk to vaccinated ones
They should not be testing vaccinated players at the very least. And in my opinion they shouldn’t be testing any more players in any sports. It’s been two fricking years and we have enough data points across the world in every damn sport that there is virtually no risk to these players. These games should played. We need to move on
Are we going to seriously do these restrictions every year. My god. This is all fricking theater and not based on any science at all
They should not be testing vaccinated players at the very least. And in my opinion they shouldn’t be testing any more players in any sports. It’s been two fricking years and we have enough data points across the world in every damn sport that there is virtually no risk to these players. These games should played. We need to move on
Are we going to seriously do these restrictions every year. My god. This is all fricking theater and not based on any science at all
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:58 pm to FellowChampHooked
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his garbage will continue on as long as these dipshit losers like Biden fauci koala Harris are in office.
Didn't another President have a shot at getting this thing under control. Vaccine mandates might be political, anti vax sentiment might be political...but a viral pandemic is just that a viral pandemic.
I agree and have said we have to change the narrative of being infected verses the strain on hospitals. The delta variant caused a strain...will the omicron? I am hopeful it will be the corner we need to turn but like everyone else I have no idea.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:59 pm to FellowChampHooked
This garbage will continue on as long as these dipshit losers like Biden fauci koala Harris are in office. The afraid of their own shadow liberal dipshits are a bigger plague than any plandemic and they keep supporting this vax me baby bullshite while being triple masked
Lockdowns came during TRUMP admin, not Biden's actually.
Drink more bleach.
Lockdowns came during TRUMP admin, not Biden's actually.
Drink more bleach.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:59 pm to lsupride87
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If the virus enters your body, and you don’t get very sick, the vaccine is a success. It’s simple as that
There we go with that enters vs. infected thing again. Damn you LSU tards are crayon eating window lickers. Pick up your high school biology book and read what it has to say about this stuff! There isn't anything new about this. A virus is gonna virus and they ALL do it the same way. You are either INFECTED or you are NOT! This so called vaccine does NOT prevent infection.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:59 pm to 3down10
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It's not deductive reasoning. It's having a bias and then making up excuses to support it.
I used deductive reasoning to see that he was full of shite. I deduced that since all those medical records are private, it is impossible for the data he is posting to be accurate. I also see that since he is not using factual information, his acceptance and need to make things up means he is looking for excuses to protect he previous biases/world view.
We can further deduce that those of you who up voted him and have chosen to defend the false data shows that you also needed those excuses to defend your existing view/bias.
You just don't get it. I realize that by now. However, I am thankful you are vaxxed even though I don't know you.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:59 pm to Tigerman97
Then you are fricking idiot tigerman.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:00 pm to Landmass
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To be fair, there shouldn't be a breakout at all if the vaccine was effective, even at 50%.
JFC how can y'all be this fkn stupid?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:00 pm to FellowChampHooked
Who replaces A & M? Texas? Illinois?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:01 pm to miracleman
quote:of course not. What it does is make it not be a novel virus to you when you get it bc your body has "seen" it before. That's why it keeps people from dying.
This so called vaccine does NOT prevent infection.
That's what it does- it makes dying less likely, almost certainly you'll live if vacc'd.
Vaccine prevents death/hospitalization.
AND OF frickING COURSE it wanes!
Natural immunity wanes, too. God damn , people, this shite isnt that confusing. You just WANT TO BELIEVE untruths.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 5:03 pm
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