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Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:16 pm to Alahunter
Well, we could argue that, but the fact remains his salesmanship was good enough to make them forget that. That this is a new Auburn. An elite Auburn with the best players from all over the country. We're setting the new standard in the SEC and you'll be at ground 0.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:16 pm to Duckie
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And yes, not everything was by the book, but I wasn't referring to ncaa rule following ability. I'm talking about how effective he was at getting these kids in the program.
Well yeah, if you don't take obeying the rules into consideration Trooper is one of the best recruiters in college football. The problem is that the reason he is a good recruiter is BECAUSE he breaks every rule in the book on a daily basis. I think the OP was looking for explanations for how Auburn stayed on the up and up and pulled in that recruiting class at the same time.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:16 pm to Alahunter
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Their 2nd SEC title didn't come until 1983. They have 1 SEC title since 1989. It's a good program, dunno if it ranks as big time. If so, then Arkansas does too.
What's with all the Arkansas hate. They have a strong history. Had a few poor coaches after entering the SEC but would have won the Big 12 championship several time if that's where they had gone.
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:17 pm to souldog
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do they just explain it as players buying into a new coach
I think the Auburn Staff was buying into them...
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:17 pm to fillmoregandt
What precedent is there for something like this to have ever happened?
Recruiting records past 10-15 years ago were nothing like today. I can see Bobby Bowden maybe accomplishing something like that in the 70's, but I can't think of a comparison with a program that doesn't have at least a few years of big-time success doing this.
Recruiting records past 10-15 years ago were nothing like today. I can see Bobby Bowden maybe accomplishing something like that in the 70's, but I can't think of a comparison with a program that doesn't have at least a few years of big-time success doing this.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:17 pm to Duckie
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but the fact remains his salesmanship was good enough to make them forget that
perhaps. Or perhaps there was more to make them forget things.
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That this is a new Auburn
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We're setting the new standard in the SEC and you'll be at ground 0.
The more things change, the more they $tay the $ame.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:17 pm to HottyToddy7
I go with what born said. He was around the recruitment of an Auburn recruit more than anyone here.
Being Family friends with Lache gave him first hand info of the AU dirty deeds. SMU style recruiting , NCAA sniffing around, FBI investigating, agents, and it just continues to add up and look rather strange.
Being Family friends with Lache gave him first hand info of the AU dirty deeds. SMU style recruiting , NCAA sniffing around, FBI investigating, agents, and it just continues to add up and look rather strange.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:18 pm to Robot Santa
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innovative and expensive recruiting methods.
Technology. Innovative and expensive recruiting technology.
It's not against the rules to buy technology (unless we're talking about an ATM)...
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:21 pm to Duckie
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Duckie
Are you an Aubie troll? Seriously?
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:25 pm to souldog
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Recruiting records past 10-15 years ago were nothing like today. I can see Bobby Bowden maybe accomplishing something like that in the 70's, but I can't think of a comparison with a program that doesn't have at least a few years of big-time success doing this.
Miami
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:26 pm to glassman
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Are you an Aubie troll? Seriously?
No, I'm just saying it's not hard to believe that they paid players OR that they didn't pay players.
Is that wrong of me to be as unbiased as possible?Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:27 pm to Duckie
How did that end for Miami?
The Hammer was dropped
The Hammer was dropped
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:30 pm to Duckie
Poor Schnelly.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:34 pm to cyde
Miami is a good example, but the response was a good one too.
Did 1983 Miami get kids clean or were they doing then what eventually brought them down? I don't know
Did 1983 Miami get kids clean or were they doing then what eventually brought them down? I don't know
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:36 pm to souldog
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Did 1983 Miami get kids clean or were they doing then what eventually brought them down? I don't know
Well, we do know that Schenllenberger brought kids in out of the ghettos. Based on the way they were coached by him and, later, by Jimmy Johnson, I'm not altogether convinced that cleaning them up was a part of the equation.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:37 pm to memphisplaya
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How did that end for Miami?
The Hammer was dropped
Schnellenberger didn't cheat. That was Jimmy Johnson and Dennis Erickson.
Regardless, the comparison doesn't work. Schnellenberger took advantage of the untapped resources and athletes of South Florida. There are ~100 D1 prospects every year in the counties that make up the Miami-Dade metro area. Almost all of the recruits he built that program on grew up half an hour from the campus. What Auburn did last year in recruiting bears no resemblance to that.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:37 pm to Duckie
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Is that wrong of me to be as unbiased as possible?
Nothing wrong with being unbiased. But your statements have been to the point of saying they did everything by the book and on the up and up. I've just simply countered the opposing viewpoint, then you made the comment about how Auburn is the new up and coming and that yall are the future. That didn't sound too unbiased.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:41 pm to Robot Santa
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Regardless, the comparison doesn't work. Schnellenberger took advantage of the untapped resources and athletes of South Florida. There are ~100 D1 prospects every year in the counties that make up the Miami-Dade metro area. Almost all of the recruits he built that program on grew up half an hour from the campus. What Auburn did last year in recruiting bears no resemblance to that.
No he didn't, but his methods lead to the the future of "DA U"
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:41 pm to Robot Santa
This is now my favorite picture in the world. We need to discuss this picture.
A Schnelly doll between tits.
A Schnelly doll between tits.
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