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re: One last Guice vs Chubb thread- Career

Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:48 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:48 am to
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Do their YPC vs common opponents in same seasons.
Update for deep rig

Pre injury chubb vs Guice common opponents YPC

Guice- 10.1 YPC

Chubb-7.6 YPC


2016 Common opponents YPC

Guice-6.63 YPC

Chubb-3.83 YPC



2017 Common opponents YPC

Guice- 3.84 YPC

Chubb-4.44 YPC
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:48 am to
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Felix Jones had a career 7.7 ypc. I'm guessing he's better than Guice by a frickload right? Side by Side stat comparison, career: Derrius Guice: 471 carries, 3,074 yards, 6.5 ypc. 32 receptions, 250 yards. Scrimmage: 3,324 yards, 6.6 ypp. Felix Jones: 396 carries, 2,956 yards, 7.7 ypc. 39 receptions, 383 yards. Scrimmage: 3,339 yards, 7.9 ypp.



Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95169 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:50 am to
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Frac the world
If thats a boom, then Guice is better than Dmac

6.5 YPC Guice > 5.8 YPC Dmac



This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 10:51 am
Posted by DawgNation4
Member since Nov 2012
1023 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:56 am to
Guice sucks. As does LSU now.

We win by 2 or more scores next year. Sad part is, you know it’s true
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95169 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:57 am to
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As does LSU now
True
quote:

Guice sucks
Not really, but Chubb unfortunately does now (I really do wish he never got heard, he was elite before). And if UGA gives the ball to Michel instead of deeprigs boy Chubb, UGA is national champs

quote:

Sad part is, you know it’s true
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 10:58 am
Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
3816 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:59 am to
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Guice sucks. As does LSU now.

Cmon man, we like UGA fans.

Why is it so hard to admit that Guice is better than every RB from UGA ever? The numbers don't lie.

Only the great Bo Jackson has a higher YPC than Guice when you inclue starting RB's with at least 3000yds rushing on 400 ATT or more.
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:05 am to
That's assuming YPC is the only stat that matters.. which it isn't.

Felix Jones was basically a better back than Derrius Guice in every respect. He had a bit fewer carries, but he actually had MORE yards from scrimmage than Guice did in those fewer carries.. not to mention being an All American kick returner.


McFadden, well, he ran for 50% more yards than Guice did. He was a workhorse.. Guice's carries are more like a backup running back's numbers. McFadden also threw the ball.




Every running back in the history of LSU has combined to win 0 Doak Walker awards, given to the best running back in college football.

Darren McFadden won two of them. Darren McFadden is one of only three SEC running backs to rush for 1,000 yards or more in ALL of their college seasons. The other two being Herschel Walker and Alex Collins.






You have to accept the fact that Guice is just an also ran in the pantheon of SEC backs. He has no major career accomplishments and will fade away, similar to Fournette.


Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:10 am to
Chubb sucked arse in the NCG. Lower YPC than Fournette against Bama.
Posted by DawgNation4
Member since Nov 2012
1023 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:12 am to
What’s funny is Hill, Fournette, and Guice never played in a championship game..
Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
3816 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:14 am to
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That's assuming YPC is the only stat that matters.. which it isn't.

You are right. Being a starter is another.

That's why Felix Jones is never mentioned in the same breath as the all-time great SEC RB's. He averaged 10 carries per game in his career and only had one game where he had 20 carries or more (South Carolina 21att-53yds). He didn't have the chest to be a starter and you know it.

He only had 4 other games in his career where he had 15 carries or more. Go away kid, you should know that change-of-pace backs should never be mentioned when we discuss the greatest RB's in SEC history.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:15 am to
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You are right. Being a starter is another.


Good point, if he just could have beat out that bum in front of him
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9636 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:21 am to
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Felix Jones was a change of pace back who averaged around 10 carries in his career after teams were too focused or too tired of chasing D-Mac and being run over by P. Hillis.


You are either too young to have watched Felix or you just want to make up your own history. Change of pace.....maybe but all that other is BS.
Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
3816 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:22 am to
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Good point, if he just could have beat out that bum in front of him

If you read my first reply to that stupid hillbilly, I addressed it.

Felix Jones had such a high YPC because teams were too focused on, or too tired of chasing D-Mac and being run over by Peyton Hillis. They were all fun to watch. But there is a reason why the record for all-time YPC doesn't start until 400 carries. Most of the all-time greats have at least 450-550 carries and had many games where they had 20 carries or more.

Felix Jones had 1 game with 21 carries and 53 yds at USC. LULZ...sorry man...that's funny to me.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 11:25 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73493 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:23 am to
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DawgNation4


So mad
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123621 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:25 am to
Love how they started changing the narrative
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:25 am to
quote:


Felix Jones had such a high YPC because teams were too focused on, or too tired of chasing D-Mac and being run over by Peyton Hillis. They were all fun to watch. But there is a reason why the record for all-time YPC don't start until 400 carries. Most of the all-tie greats have at least 450-550 carries and had many games where they had 20 carries or more.



And that has nothing to do with your point about being behind DMac. You are arguing for inflated YPC numbers, not why he wasn't a starter behind one of the best RBs in SEC history and how that should be used against him.

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73493 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:27 am to
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Love how they started changing the narrative



Not even just the narrative. Dudes are just throwing out trivial shite like Bama fans did with LF.
Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
3816 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:30 am to
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Love how they started changing the narrative


I was ready for UGA fans to start with the but but but he didn't have a good game on the third week of November at 11am...etc etc.

But who knew I would suck in pathetic Arky posters to bluster and blunder about Felix Jones. The little scat back who flamed out in the NFL becaus he didn't have D-mac to take attn away from him.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:47 am to
Ladies and Gentlemen, Introducing Mr. D'Andre Swift. SEC prepare thy anus.

ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
81 618 7.6 71 3

SEC STATS
ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
56 448 8 71 1
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 11:48 am
Posted by DawgNation4
Member since Nov 2012
1023 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:55 am to
Nah just confident in the careers of Gurley, Chubb and Michel over the careers of Hill, Fournette, and Guice
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