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re: Ole Miss and MSU won't play Southern Miss?
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:51 am to MadDoggyStyle
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:51 am to MadDoggyStyle
quote:Our 2015 game is in Hattiesburg, FWIW.
USM wants MSU and UM to play a game in Hattiesburg to help them finance their athletic program. They can only get about 26,000 to show up for their home games. Why should the other two in-state schools leave all that money on the table? It's good business to play those OOc games at home.
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Posted on 2/12/12 at 12:03 pm to texasaggie08
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Ole Miss won’t play Southern Miss. Southern Miss won five of the last seven meetings, and that was the end of that.
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Mississippi State won’t play Southern Miss. Southern won 12 of the last 16 meetings.
Posted on 2/12/12 at 12:20 pm to texasaggie08
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Southern Miss won five of the last seven meetings, and that was the end of that.
They love to tell themselves this is the reason we don't play them anymore.
Posted on 2/12/12 at 1:18 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Southern Miss won five of the last seven meetings, and that was the end of that.
They love to tell themselves this is the reason we don't play them anymore.
Those last meetings were in the 80s when Om was pretty damn bad and USM had those Reggie Collier led teams that became known as "The Giant Killers". Collier was unreal. First-ever ncaa qb to rush and pass for 1000 yds in a season.
Posted on 2/12/12 at 1:25 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Southern Miss won five of the last seven meetings, and that was the end of that.
They love to tell themselves this is the reason we don't play them anymore.
Ole Miss is 18-6 all time against Southern. They don't own shite.
Playing them, especially in Hattiesburg, is a situation which really doesn't serve to benefit Ole Miss. Period. How people can't understand this, I'll never get.
Posted on 2/12/12 at 1:29 pm to DCRebel
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Ole Miss is 18-6 all time against Southern. They don't own shite.
Phacts are phun.
This post was edited on 2/12/12 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 2/12/12 at 1:31 pm to DCRebel
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How people can't understand this, I'll never get.
Ignorance is bliss to some fans. They beat a terrible Nebraska team once back in 02 or 03 and all of a sudden "We can beat ANYONE! We could play and compete in the SEC!!!!!"
Even after they get stomped by Florida, South Carolina and Bama they are still running their mouths about how great they are and how they can win in the SEC.
This post was edited on 2/12/12 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 2/12/12 at 1:31 pm to RebFeBrees
I think State is 12-14 against them 
Posted on 2/12/12 at 1:34 pm to OBReb6
quote:Close - technically 12-14-1 but 2 of the games were on-field wins that were forfeited because of a suit of clothes.
I think State is 12-14 against them
Posted on 2/12/12 at 2:08 pm to Diamondawg
Yeah that blows. Was Ole Miss to blame for that probation too?
Posted on 2/12/12 at 2:16 pm to OBReb6
quote:No. I blame Bob Tyler for being hard headed
Was Ole Miss to blame for that probation too?
Posted on 2/12/12 at 4:19 pm to Diamondawg
Doesn't make sense to me to play them in H'burg. MSU would be better served to play at home and keep all that coin.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:13 am to reb13
And there sits an empty stadium in Jackson, except for Jackson State. I can remember when Steve Sloan insisted that an elevator be furnished for the press corp. The only time Ole Ms. or MSU could really draw a crowd in Jackson was when they played USM.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:35 am to keene
quote:If they could come up with the money to build JSU an on-campus stadium, they would tear Vet Memorial Stadium down.
And there sits an empty stadium in Jackson, except for Jackson State
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:50 am to Diamondawg
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If they could come up with the money to build JSU an on-campus stadium, they would tear Vet Memorial Stadium down.
It's apparently more complex than that now. JSU won't accept the designs that have been presented to them.
That space is being wasted. Bars, restaurants, stores, and more parking for the medical school are needed there.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:58 am to DCRebel
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more parking for the medical school are needed there.
Oh God yes.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 9:58 am to DCRebel
quote:If they do anything with it other than it remain an old, terrribly in need of repairs stadium, they want to build a massive research facility for UMC. That would be the start of a healthcare corridor from St D, VA and Med Center all the way to the Medical Mall. Would be impressive if they could pull it off.
That space is being wasted. Bars, restaurants, stores, and more parking for the medical school are needed there.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 10:16 am to texasaggie08
I feel like the Big XII will only be viable and successful if it is able to garner a new, large market. Large land grant schools with a love for football seem to be the ideal model, but the Big XII ran off 4 of those, and replaced it with TCU and WVU. WVU is tiny and far away, and TCU is a small small small and very very very expensive private school.
TCU would have honestly been a great school to add if it wasn't for it being small and private. A&M has a 24 game win streak against TCU, which should give you a reference for how they did in the SWC.
I want the Big XII to be successful. I don't want it to dissolve. I want them to be the considered the 4th strongest conference year in and year out, and when we play tu on Thanksgiving again, we pound them.
I think getting back to 12 is important, but they don't really have viable options. The key being Notre Dame. Wait. What? Notre Dame to the Big XII? No I'm not saying that. Notre Dame will never give away the regional and national rivalries it has to play in Waco, Lubbock, Ft. Worth, Aimes, Manhatten, Lawrence Morgantown and Stillwater. They already have contracts with OU and tu, why would the ever lock themselves in to terrible games, they would have to give up traditional games to do it. It makes zero sense.
What I am saying is that the conference is taking on a brand of it's own, in part due to the SEC's dominance. As an Aggie, the conference pride thing is a new deal to me, but I think it is becoming increasingly important.
This is what I mean by Notre Dame. My belief is that the age of the 16 team super conference will only ever be kick started by them. With a B1G/Pac 12 agreement. They join the B1G, you have a permanent cross conference rivalry, weird accommodations, etc.
At that point, with expansion of the B1G, the Pac 12 might look at the tu/Tech/OU/OSU package again.
If not, and the Big XII does expand to 12... who is even on the table? Louisville? Memphis? So Miss? Tulane? Houston? SMU? Nevada? New Mexico State? Tulsa?
If they had forward thinking, I would think they aim for Houston and Tulane. Just aim for big cities with NFL stadiums you could borrow. If this current arrangement somehow stays still for say 10 or 20 years... people are still going to want to go to road games, and even though your conference is shitty, you still have the DFW/Houston metropolitan areas, which are both football crazy, and are the 4th and 6th largest in the country, and growing at faster rates than all others in the top 10.
TCU would have honestly been a great school to add if it wasn't for it being small and private. A&M has a 24 game win streak against TCU, which should give you a reference for how they did in the SWC.
I want the Big XII to be successful. I don't want it to dissolve. I want them to be the considered the 4th strongest conference year in and year out, and when we play tu on Thanksgiving again, we pound them.
I think getting back to 12 is important, but they don't really have viable options. The key being Notre Dame. Wait. What? Notre Dame to the Big XII? No I'm not saying that. Notre Dame will never give away the regional and national rivalries it has to play in Waco, Lubbock, Ft. Worth, Aimes, Manhatten, Lawrence Morgantown and Stillwater. They already have contracts with OU and tu, why would the ever lock themselves in to terrible games, they would have to give up traditional games to do it. It makes zero sense.
What I am saying is that the conference is taking on a brand of it's own, in part due to the SEC's dominance. As an Aggie, the conference pride thing is a new deal to me, but I think it is becoming increasingly important.
This is what I mean by Notre Dame. My belief is that the age of the 16 team super conference will only ever be kick started by them. With a B1G/Pac 12 agreement. They join the B1G, you have a permanent cross conference rivalry, weird accommodations, etc.
At that point, with expansion of the B1G, the Pac 12 might look at the tu/Tech/OU/OSU package again.
If not, and the Big XII does expand to 12... who is even on the table? Louisville? Memphis? So Miss? Tulane? Houston? SMU? Nevada? New Mexico State? Tulsa?
If they had forward thinking, I would think they aim for Houston and Tulane. Just aim for big cities with NFL stadiums you could borrow. If this current arrangement somehow stays still for say 10 or 20 years... people are still going to want to go to road games, and even though your conference is shitty, you still have the DFW/Houston metropolitan areas, which are both football crazy, and are the 4th and 6th largest in the country, and growing at faster rates than all others in the top 10.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 10:21 am to TeLeFaWx
What was all of that? 
Posted on 2/13/12 at 10:21 am to Requiem For A Dawg
Same reason Auburn or Bama would never play Troy
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