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Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:40 am to
Posted by JamalSanders
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Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:40 am to
quote:

.that is 3 supers between all SEC squads. they are thinning out the SEC herd.



Would not be surprised to see Auburn vs Tennessee in a super.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:42 am to
Weeding out SEC teams before Omaha. It's not even transparent
Posted by MEd LSU
Member since Dec 2018
3687 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:48 am to
they did it to other conferences too quit whining
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:09 pm to
They did it to guarantee a P12 representative, a BDF, etc ... If the SEC really is much better then there would have been a very real possibility of majority of teams in Omaha coming from the SEC.

Like I said, transparent
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:20 pm to
Who should be 12, and why?
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:30 pm to
OM has the metrics to be #12. Played 39 games against Quadrant 1 (Top 50) teams and had a 20-19 record. No other team in the country played that many Q1 games. SOS was 8. Got to the SEC Tournament Title Game by going through 2 National seeds--Arkansas and Georgia. Took the road series in Fayetteville; took the road series in Baton Rouge. Swept A & M (4 games). I have no problem with LSU hosting, but RPI is only one tool in a host of metrics. Head to head should count when it comes down to fine-tuning the host spots. And I don't think it's possible to avoid some SEC Supers with all the bids the league got this year. SEC is the #1 league in baseball. No reason to gripe about seedings. Teams that do well in the SEC across the board deserve the consideration they get from the committee.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19444 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:36 pm to
Yes I get that RPI is just one thing, but 22 RPI is execptionally low. To put in in perspective, Florida, who barely made the tournament is just as close in RPI to y’all as y’all are to us. Your SOS is good but it’s not better than ours.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:44 pm to
I think if you stack OM up head to head against anyone behind them it’s hard to make a clear cut case for any of them over Ole Miss. LSU is closest but Ole Miss has more Q1 wins, less Q3+Q4 losses and a head to head series road win. It’s higher than I expected based on perception of the final two regular season weeks but I can’t really fault the committee after comparing them to all the others behind them.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:46 pm to
I mean the Q1 wins is only because Kentucky dropped to 51. The resumes aren’t really close. Unc, Oregon State, and LSU all have better resumes than ole miss. they did it to match SEC teams
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:46 pm to
Terrific Tales: I think the committee has fine-tuned its process to look at the entire body of metrics for these host decisions. If we had not won the series at Baton Rouge, I would agree that LSU deserved a higher seed than OM. I think that was the deciding factor here. Both LSU and OM had great runs in Hoover and deserved to host. Good luck to both teams. BTW, by matching so many SEC teams in potential Supers, it guarantees that more SEC teams will get to Omaha. Not a bad thing, really.
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5318 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

By that logic, we belong over UGA since we swept them.



I agree, by that logic we should be over you. We out scored you by 23 runs in 5 games. You were lucky we didn't sweep you at home. Your two wins were by a total of 2 runs (no I do not think we should be ahead of you, just adding to your point).
It is all about match ups, that is why head to heads don't matter.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:56 pm to
LOL, no they don’t have better resumes. At best the resumes are close. I could see them being picked higher, certainly LSU usually gets the benefit of any doubt, but the bottom line is that none of those have anything distinguishing to separate themselves.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19444 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:00 pm to
Obviously I’m not gonna convince you otherwise. 22 is the lowest RPI host EVER and should have been 16
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46430 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:02 pm to
LSU just doesn’t have the name recognition anymore to have pull with the selection committee. Sad really.
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5733 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:05 pm to
Nah. Ohio State hosted with a 66 RPI in 2001.

Lowest SEC team was Tennessee in 2005 (29 RPI)
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:06 pm to
Lower seeds have hosted, dude. That’s just the lowest SEC team to do so since 09. But the base RPI should only ever be used as a grouping metric. It’ll be ok.
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:06 pm to
The committee thought otherwise, Terrific Tales. Ray Tanner is the head of the committee. I liked his response when he was questioned about the possible Super pairings. He said that the 16 were awarded based on merit and not with a view to what could happen after the regionals. I think they did a good job looking at all the metrics, and now, it is what it is. Time for the SEC teams to put on their Big Boy pants and win.
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

22 is the lowest RPI host EVER and should have been 16

This simply is not true. It's just the lowest for an SEC team since 2006. Fake news lookin' arse
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Obviously I’m not gonna convince you otherwise. 22 is the lowest RPI host EVER


Dude...
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19444 posts
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:30 pm to
I meant since the restructure of the RPI system but y’all knew that. You just wanted to take what I said which was a slight technical mistype and turn it into me just flat out lying. I thought SEC teams were implied since we were talking about 2 SEC teams lol
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