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re: Oklahoma is not coming to the SEC

Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:07 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:07 am to
OU doesn't belong anywhere. Y'all signed the Big 12 GOR and now you have to live with it.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54628 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:34 am to
quote:

OU is 4-0 vs SEC since 2013 WITH the Big 12 defense.


2017 #7 Oklahoma (10-2, 9-0) beat #17 Auburn (8-4, 5-3) | OU win expected
2016 #4 Oklahoma (11-1, 8-1) beat #23 Tennessee (8-4, 5-3) | OU win expected
2015 #18 Oklahoma (8-4, 5-4) beat NR Tennessee (7-5, 3-5) | OU win expected
2014 #6 Oklahoma (10-2, 7-2) beat #3 Alabama (11-1, 7-1) | OU win not unexpected
Iron Bowl loss that year took the steam out of the Tide (the infamous "Kick Six" game)
2013 #12 Oklahoma (10-2, 8-1) lost to #10 Texas A&M (10-2, 6-2) | OU win not expected but beaten badly

Before that you have to back to the 2008 season and the loss to Florida




quote:

We'd be at or near the top in the SEC.


Not sure this argument holds water. While I will give the Sooners full credit for being a legit football team and having a history of scheduling well for non conference games I do not agree they would suddenly be the SEC leaders if they were in conference.

Your argument is similar to those made by Free Shoes and Tater fans who coast through the ACC season with few challenges then look good in the post season and crow about how well they would do in the SEC. Problem is they are not playing the SEC schedule and while they would still do well, an extra loss or two each and every season would not exactly be putting them in the same post season bowls they now enjoy.

Imagine this is your SEC schedule
Game 01 = Marquee season opener in Chick Fil A, JerryWorld, Houston, etc
Game 02 = G5 game (probably a Texas school)
Game 03 = SEC East game
Game 04 = Texas A&M
Game 05 = Alabama
Game 06 = Auburn
Game 07 = LSU
Game 08 = State
Game 09 = Ole Miss
Game 10 = Arkansas
Game 11 = Bedlam
Game 12 = Red River Shootout

You could move RRR Shootout to a season opening game, replace Game 11 with an FCS school, and put Bedlam at the end, but not much easier than that.


quote:

If you disagree, make a legit argument


The legit argument has been made. The question is if you are a reasonable fan of football or are to filled with Sooner KoolAid to accept the reality presented. It is like all the B1G folks who frequent this site and never admit how easy most B1G regular season schedules are. Like this year the bowls help set the narrative straight. SEC (especially "the six") are still winning most of their bowls and the CC has done well lately. They have probably moved to the #2 spot once Nebraska sent the B12 into a tailspin.
Posted by Sooner a Reb
Maryland
Member since Jan 2017
1225 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

fact: 4 out of 5 OU fans would sell their mobile homes if it would gain them entrance


Wouldn't do them any good, its been 5 years and the market is still flooded with all of the Aggie trailers (using the term loosely) still in foreclosure.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24973 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Masterag



A&M got swept by the Mississippi schools this year. Ya know, the two schools that finished last in the division. Seems to me A&M has the most to lose if OU comes to the SEC -- it'll be another automatic L for aggy.
Posted by BipolarJJ
Member since May 2016
44 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 1:31 pm to
Dear Oklahoma Sooners -



Posted by The Balinese Club
Coastal Bend Area of Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2797 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 1:39 pm to
Hey lester, you fricking moron.

quote:

lestertheghost: quote: and the only reason aggies have an endowment is that aggies agreed in court in the 1920's that they are a branch of UT


quote:

TBC quote: Just curious, what was that case? Thanks in advance for a legitimate citation.


I'm still waiting.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5001 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 1:49 pm to
CWS titles: OU 2 - Aggy 0

CFB titles: OU 7 - Aggy 1

Men's Hoops: OU 5 FF - Aggy 0

The only recognizable championship Aggy has is women's hoops. Now, GTFO!

77-0 > 41-13
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80027 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

77-0 > 41-13


But not greater than 51-7 IN NORMAN.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80027 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

You could move RRR Shootout to a season opening game


You fail to understand what the Red River game is tied directly to.

The State of Texas isn't moving its State Fair to Labor Day weekend.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33875 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Furthermore, comparing yourselves to A&M is plain silly.


No shite.


A&M
Posted by reggieray420
Member since Dec 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 2:02 pm to
Cripple fiiiiight!!
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 2:06 pm to
I have already stated it, but word is right now the SEC will go to 16 teams, as will all the major conferences. OU and OSU are the initial targets of the SEC. ACC teams are not an option. The buy out is too large, and there really isn't anything the SEC can offer. Sauces.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15968 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Can we just go ahead and send Mizzou to another conference?


You would like that. splitting the east with us over the last few years have really angered you.
Posted by Sooner a Reb
Maryland
Member since Jan 2017
1225 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Your argument is similar to those made by Free Shoes and Tater fans who coast through the ACC season with few challenges then look good in the post season and crow about how well they would do in the SEC. Problem is they are not playing the SEC schedule and while they would still do well, an extra loss or two each and every season would not exactly be putting them in the same post season bowls they now enjoy.



None of this happens in a Vacuum, in fact OU added to a version of the SEC West would make it harder for all involved, OU, Alabama and LSU. But be clear, OU would be in the mix more often than not. But this rubs both ways, right now OU HAS to be perfect, but with eSECpn Hype they would get the benefit of the doubt with a few losses, justified or not.
All of this being said, it is going to be difficult for OU to go anywhere and keep its very lucrative relationship with Texas and avoid State Politics from a break with Okie Light. I agree with you that OU is on a collision course with disaster, trying to play both sides against the middle. It will be interesting to see if OU lands on its feet, I think it will, but it may be painful.
Posted by sows
Member since Dec 2015
46 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:18 pm to
OU's rivals aren't in the SEC. If Big 12 breaks up, i'd be fine with OU being in any major conference. To me the BIg 10 seems to be the best fit and then the SEC. I'd like to see OU play Nebraska every year again. I think OU and UT will continue to play at the fair for a long time regardless of conference affiliation. I do hope OSU remains in the same conference as OU for both the rivalry and quite frankly they have good athletic programs. Much more decorated than A&M for sure...

For original poster, why do you even care? OU and A&M aren't historical rivals. I do hope OU meets A&M in a postseason game. I think OU fans will be pleased when the matchup comes around again.
Posted by Dude man 25
Member since Dec 2016
461 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

1 of the reasons, and IDK if it's the main reason, Riley isn't in BR right now is because he has a great QB returning at OU. What could have been if his QB wasn't returning.


Delusion at its finest
Posted by Dude man 25
Member since Dec 2016
461 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

The legit argument has been made. The question is if you are a reasonable fan of football or are to filled with Sooner KoolAid to accept the reality presented. It is like all the B1G folks who frequent this site and never admit how easy most B1G regular season schedules are. Like this year the bowls help set the narrative straight. SEC (especially "the six") are still winning most of their bowls and the CC has done well lately. They have probably moved to the #2 spot once Nebraska sent the B12 into a tailspin.


Posted by Sooner a Reb
Maryland
Member since Jan 2017
1225 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

But not greater than 51-7 IN NORMAN.


51-7 in Norman (20 years ago) < 7 straight wins aggregate score 345-133, in fact Stoops made aggy his personal bitch 11 out of 14 years. The real reason Aggy wants no part of OU in the SEC west.
Posted by Saddletramp
Member since Jan 2017
67 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:41 pm to
Even Oklahoma State might be considered better than A&M.

Team National Championships Ranking:
Oklahoma State University
Total team national championships: 51
Mens national championships: 51
Womens national championships: 0
Coed national championships: 0
Overall Rank: 4

Sorry couldn't find A&M's ranking....it only listed the top 38 schools.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80027 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Mens national championships: 51


34 Wrestling Titles, 10 Golf Titles.

Of the other SEVEN, only three have come in the last ten years.

Meanwhile, in the last ten years, A&M has 10 of their 15 national titles.
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