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re: OK boys the NEW YORK TIMES has vindicated Ol' Anti.

Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:56 am to
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:56 am to
Ah the melt is still strong with some I see
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Just so I get this right, you are saying if a receiver goes past 3 yards and runs into a defender to block him, its a penalty?

It CAN BE a foul, but it depends entirely on where and when the contact occurs. In this case, it's not a foul.
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:05 am to
One play in one game - and you lost. It'll be okay.

Now

Posted by wartiger2004
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:13 am to
This and all this times infinity
Posted by MikeHoncho
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:22 am to
Antibarner, you're the worst. Go away.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:55 am to
quote:

the NEW YORK TIMES has vindicated Ol' Anti.


your title is incorrect:

this was an editorial by an Alabama fan, Freelance journalist based in Atlanta
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:58 am to
quote:

this was an editorial by an Alabama fan,
who would have guessed
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

who would have guessed


I'M SHOCKED I TELL YOU, SHOCKED!

Great tweets from that night are as follows:

quote:

This is why we're here in The Swamp. To see how FSU's offense can manage against something other than air. This is an SEC defense;a good one


quote:

FSU would be up 14-0 by now against the ACC and Idaho. When Bama arrives on sked the speed and brawn won't be a shock. That's a big deal.


quote:

Wow. McCarron for 99-yard TD oass. Trip to New York in his future wit this.


and that once "extremely confident that Alabama will take care of business when it comes to FSU" guy...

quote:

Saban made mistake after mistake. Good for Auburn. SEC run of titles was going to end anyway (FSU)


Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:15 pm to
Call names and talk about ANYTHING but the subject of the original post.

I cited the article hell I cited the rule.

An eligible receiver cannot be downfield blocking a defender on a pass over the LOS.

Prosch was at least 5 yards downfield when the pass was released.

I wish I could see the other side of the field,a field shot because it appears you may have had someone downfield even farther doing the same thing.

The purpose of the play is to deceive the DB's into coming up seeing the run blocking downfield ahead of them.

The pass itself was legal. The Olineman were borderline but I would have to say legal.

Prosch was NOT. He screened off CJ Mosley keeping him from getting to Marshall then continued to do so downfield preventing him from getting between Marshall and Coates.

Offensive pass interference. Nothing to be done about it now but in the future when you run this and you will it needs to draw a flag.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:18 pm to
and for those of you that didn't read the article:

quote:

In an email response to a request for an interpretation of the rule, the Southeastern Conference said, “It is not offensive pass interference when, after the snap, an ineligible receiver immediately charges and contacts an opponent at a point not more than 1 yard beyond the neutral zone and does not continue the contact more than 3 yards beyond the neutral zone.”

Prosch was an eligible receiver and he was making contact with a defender 5 yards down field. Mosley was not able to get to Marshall and Alabama’s defensive back had to come up to try to make the tackle on Marshall, who passed over his head to a wide-open Coates.


important part of this:

quote:

Prosch was an eligible receiver and he was making contact with a defender 5 yards down field. Mosley was not able to get to Marshall and Alabama’s defensive back had to come up to try to make the tackle on Marshall, who passed over his head to a wide-open Coates.


closer:

quote:

Mosley was not able to get to Marshall and Alabama’s defensive back had to come up to try to make the tackle on Marshall


lotz of innuendos in this article.. saweeeeeet

oh yeah, this guy even called him an eligible receiver.. at least they are coming around on THAT part of it.

How long til they realize the ball wasn't thrown anywhere close to the FB, and their precious Mosley was probably the one pushing and holding Prosch in order to keep Prosch from being able to go out for anything.. which ended up backfiring on em?!?!

oh wait, this is anti we are talking about

REFS MADE US LOSE!
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:22 pm to
LOL watch the block, Prosch shifted to screen Mosley inside there is no evidence of a hold on the play.

And if you can read the primary point here that I have made repeatedly is Prosch was an eligible receiver blocking downfield on a pass thrown over the LOS.

Offensive Pass interference.
Posted by ColtonH
Member since Mar 2013
228 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:23 pm to
I knew we couldn't get through the day without some LSU fan mentioning the Peterson interception that wasn't.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23801 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:25 pm to
OH and as to your point about where the ball was thrown....Mosley was on the same side of the field as the passer trying to make a play.

They call holding away from the ball all the time.

They call blocking in the back away from the ball all the time and yes they call pass interference away from the ball all the time.

Posted by Luke
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

ineligible players
like those that received illegal benefits???? Please, do tell us more about loans, bedroom suites, chargers and auto accessories !!
Posted by JermStone
Beaumont, Tx
Member since Jun 2008
5741 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:25 pm to
I am going to agree with you that it SHOULD have been a flag. I think all you really want is someone to see your point anyway. I do believe that the refs missed the call because they were as surprised as bama was when he threw it.

Now I have agreed with you for two days in a row but you have to let this go brah.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:25 pm to
and the melt continues...
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

and the melt continues...


it got anchored.. anti needs to start another thread!

ETA: Hmm the admins must have known what I just did.. and un-anchored it.. and so it continues!
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 12:30 pm
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4063 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Call names and talk about ANYTHING but the subject of the original post.

I cited the article hell I cited the rule.

An eligible receiver cannot be downfield blocking a defender on a pass over the LOS.

Prosch was at least 5 yards downfield when the pass was released.

I wish I could see the other side of the field,a field shot because it appears you may have had someone downfield even farther doing the same thing.

The purpose of the play is to deceive the DB's into coming up seeing the run blocking downfield ahead of them.

The pass itself was legal. The Olineman were borderline but I would have to say legal.

Prosch was NOT. He screened off CJ Mosley keeping him from getting to Marshall then continued to do so downfield preventing him from getting between Marshall and Coates.

Offensive pass interference. Nothing to be done about it now but in the future when you run this and you will it needs to draw a flag.


Ok I read it. There are some valid points made to Prosch being downfield on the block. Congrats on your moral victory. I hope it makes you feel a little better about yourself today. Be sure to save that article and stick it in your wallet because when you see the kick six played back again and again year after year for years to come you will want a copy close at hand to be able to pull to reassert your moral victory.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23801 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:34 pm to
They did miss the call this is correct and I agree nothing to do about it now except.....

Both AU and Aggy run this play. Run with eligible receivers blocking downfield past the neutral zone
how is a DB supposed to react?

Nick Saban made this very point. I agree.Officials pregame need to be made aware to watch for this and flag them when they run it.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18307 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Ok I read it. There are some valid points made to Prosch being downfield on the block. Congrats on your moral victory. I hope it makes you feel a little better about yourself today. Be sure to save that article and stick it in your wallet because when you see the kick six played back again and again year after year for years to come you will want a copy close at hand to be able to pull to reassert your moral victory.


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