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re: Nutt does more with less (Greatest backfield ever)

Posted on 7/28/11 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 9:56 pm to
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I agree you that Nutt underachieved in '07 but I don't know what more he could have possibly done in 2006. Arkansas started the season 10-1 and won a loaded SEC West (Auburn and LSU both went 11-2 that year). Also, all four of their losses came to teams that finished the season ranked in the top 5 in the Coaches Poll (top 7 in the AP Poll).


Not finishing the season with 3 straight losses would have been a start.

Lost the first game in glorious fashion in front of a max capacity home crowd.

Won 10 straight.

Lost 3 straight to finish the season.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 9:56 pm to
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Wasn't Muschamp the guy if Petrino backed out?


I thought is was Butch Davis
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42849 posts
Posted on 7/28/11 at 9:58 pm to
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I thought is was Butch Davis



Could have been the new coach for the 2007 season, all Broyles had to do was have a quick trigger...
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:00 pm to
Amazing what you can do when you get rid of the QB position.
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:04 pm to
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all Broyles had to do was have a quick trigger


He's like 300 years old. I'm sure he has a "quick trigger."
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42849 posts
Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:06 pm to
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Slippery Slope



There is a joke in the statement.

Others will see it.

You may ask them to explain it to you.
Posted by King
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:10 pm to
Twitter says Mallett has agrred to terms with the pats. 4 year deal...no $ numbers yet

LINK
This post was edited on 7/28/11 at 10:11 pm
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
37251 posts
Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:12 pm to
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Twitter says Mallett has agrred to terms with the pats. 4 year deal...no $ numbers yet


Bust! but he'll be rich...

Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:13 pm to
There's a joke in my statement as well.

Others will see it.

Some will explain it to you, but you still won't get it.
Posted by FleaMarketBill
Mayor of Wizard Township
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:13 pm to
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Greatest backfield ever, never won the SEC, yet somehow did more with less?

Shitty logic there.



Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:13 pm to
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Not finishing the season with 3 straight losses would have been a start.


He lost to three teams that finished the season ranked in the top 5 in the coaches poll. Three teams that finished the season with a combined record of 36-4. Name me one time during that stretch when Arkansas was the better team.

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Lost the first game in glorious fashion in front of a max capacity home crowd.


USC destroyed a lot of top OOC opponents during those years. They were a juggernaut even after Leinart and Bush left. Actually, Arkansas should be proud of the fact that they are one of the few SEC teams that weren't afraid to take on the best of the best. Also, wasn't Darren McFadden hurt? I don't believe he even played in that game. Even more reason why Houston Nutt shouldn't be blamed for that loss.

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Won 10 straight.


Which is a hell of an accomplishment in the SEC.

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Lost 3 straight to finish the season.


Again, that was due to their tough schedule. Some CFB teams go years without playing as many three top 5 opponents. Arkansas had to play three top 5 opponents in a row. That's just bad luck, difficult scheduling, whatever, but it's yet another thing that was completely out of Houston Nutt's control. Nutt did a great job coaching Arkansas in 2006.
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:14 pm to
yeah the chances of Mallet making it in the NFL especially behind Brady, no very good.

Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:16 pm to
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Bench McElroy

This post was edited on 7/28/11 at 10:17 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42849 posts
Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:21 pm to
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Name me one time during that stretch when Arkansas was the better team.


Hell, I don't know when they were out-playing each on the field and/or leading the game before finding a way to grab defeat from the jaws of victory.

You act as if Arkansas was hovering around the 25th ranked spot instead of being ranked in the top five during the time these games were played.

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I don't believe he even played in that game.


He did.

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Arkansas had to play three top 5 opponents in a row.


These were not games played in back to back consecutive weeks. There was as much as a month to prepare for one game for instance...


This post was edited on 7/28/11 at 10:22 pm
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7601 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 1:20 am to
Its pretty well known that during the south carolina game is when nutt got power hungry and started taking the duties away from malzahn...and we slowly got worse

I mean how do we hold wisconsin to -3 yards rushing and double them in yardage and still lose with that backfield?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 1:42 am to
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I mean how do we hold Wisconsin to -3 yards rushing


God, I had forgotten about that
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/29/11 at 1:48 am to
It really was the best backfield ever. Possible that they didn't realize it at the time.
Posted by DiafGtfo
Member since Nov 2010
1894 posts
Posted on 7/29/11 at 1:52 am to
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Not finishing the season with 3 straight losses would have been a start.



He lost to three teams that finished the season ranked in the top 5 in the coaches poll. Three teams that finished the season with a combined record of 36-4. Name me one time during that stretch when Arkansas was the better team.

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Lost the first game in glorious fashion in front of a max capacity home crowd.



USC destroyed a lot of top OOC opponents during those years. They were a juggernaut even after Leinart and Bush left. Actually, Arkansas should be proud of the fact that they are one of the few SEC teams that weren't afraid to take on the best of the best. Also, wasn't Darren McFadden hurt? I don't believe he even played in that game. Even more reason why Houston Nutt shouldn't be blamed for that loss.

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Won 10 straight.



Which is a hell of an accomplishment in the SEC.

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Lost 3 straight to finish the season.



Again, that was due to their tough schedule. Some CFB teams go years without playing as many three top 5 opponents. Arkansas had to play three top 5 opponents in a row. That's just bad luck, difficult scheduling, whatever, but it's yet another thing that was completely out of Houston Nutt's control. Nutt did a great job coaching Arkansas in 2006.



2006 wasn't the main issue that most people had with Nutt, apart from the Mustain saga. It was that the typical Nutt 3-4 year cycle had started to repeat, and people were tired of it.

Year 1: Sneak up on people when expected to finish 4th or worse in the division (1998, 2002, 2006, 2008)
Year 2: Collapse under higher expectations, but still have a winning record around the 8-4 mark (1999, 2003, 2007, 2009)
Year 3/Year 4: Pathetic rebuilding year with 0.500 record or worse (2000, 2001, 2004, 2005, 2010)


As for Nutt's coaching, that 2006 squad was pretty damn stacked, and much was probably due to some positional coaching, though much of that talent was mismanaged IMO. 3/4 DL members ended up getting drafted (Jamaal Anderson-1st round, Keith Jackson, and Marcus Harrison). Sam Olajubutu was a great LB despite being undersized, and Fairchild probably would have been a late draftee had he not decided to be retarded. Our secondary was pretty good though. Chris Houston was a 1st round pick, and even Matteral Richardson got drafted late (though I remember him getting burned so bad against LSU). Michael Grant was a track stud, and Randy Kelly was a good headhunter.

On offense, of course you had DMac, Jones, and Hillis, and Marcus Monk. Even Robert Johnson did decently as a receiver after being moved over from QB. On the OL, you had Tony Ugoh (2nd round pick), Jonathan Luigs (2xRimington award winner), Zac Tubbs (7th round pick IIRC).

Most of the losses that we suffered were losses taht could have been avoided had it been for better coaching. For example, just against USC, despite going into the half down 13-7, Nutt shite the bag, and we ended up losing 50-14, which explains his panic move to burn Mustain's redshirt. Against LSU, despite having NO success in the passing game, he decides to call 4 straight pass plays despite having the greatest backfield in NCAA history. I don't care if there are three minutes left in the game...DMac and Felix were averaging nearly a 1st down every time they touched the ball. Against UF, that was more of Reggie Fish botching the punt catch and momentum swinging. However, Nutt should have called more outside plays since UF was pinching inside and shutting down the inside run game.

The most damning evidence was exhibited in the Wisconsin game. Arkansas WAS the better team, and was favored to win as well. Jones averaged 9 ypc that game because Wisky was collapsing inside and not allowing DMac to get into the open field. Yet Jones barely touched the ball that game, with Dmac getting the lion's share of the carries with some terrible play calling. We'd shut down PJ Hill too, and still due to unimaginative playcalling, we lost that game.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/29/11 at 6:12 am to
Nutt has a better SEC win % than Petrino and owns the series vs Pertino.

Facts dont lie.
Posted by gatorprincess815
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/29/11 at 6:15 am to
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