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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?
Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:15 am to captdalton
Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:15 am to captdalton
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:24 am to Wolfhound45
Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:28 am to Hback
It is a battle of something that is for sure 
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:43 am to Wolfhound45
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:46 am to Wolfhound45
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:53 am to Hback
Damn you
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:55 pm to JayAg
Wow! 55 pages of this stupid shite! At this point, y'all should see if you can break 100. 
Posted on 6/16/25 at 5:52 pm to Buster83
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At this point, y'all should see if you can break 100.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:20 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:48 pm to SidewalkTiger
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constantly trash Kelly when your guy has been no better.
“Our guy” has been objectively better in 5 years as a HC than yours has been in 20+. Literally everyone else sees this and knows this except a contingent of LSU fans that try to add subjectivity into something that has clearly been demonstrated.
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No one is saying Freeman is bad, people are just saying that he's being overrated and hasn't actually accomplished anything more than Kelly.
Except, he has, objectively. It’s not even debatable except in the head of some very confused LSU fans that try to grasp at straws to defend their Mark Richt lite coach (apologies to Mark Richt, he was a tipped pass away from destroying BK in the NC game instead of Bama).
Again, all the people that actually know football and can look at this objectively know Freeman has already won 1-2 games that Kelly couldn’t ever win.
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This really isn't THAT HARD to understand.
You wouldn’t think so, but your inability to understand that Kelly is 0 for his entire career while others are not is astounding. Talk about sailing over someone’s head!!
Keep trying to explain away every single BK loss in any meaningful postseason game, but it won’t change the facts. Your guy gets out coached in every big game when there’s several weeks to prepare. My condolences for that, and good luck in the Clemson game.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:03 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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“Our guy” has been objectively better in 5 years as a HC than yours has been in 20+. Literally everyone else sees this and knows this except a contingent of LSU fans that try to add subjectivity into something that has clearly been demonstrated.
He appeared in the natty in year 3 at the D1 level and got blown out, same as BK.
You just think it's better because the labels are different.
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Except, he has, objectively. It’s not even debatable except in the head of some very confused LSU fans that try to grasp at straws to defend their Mark Richt lite coach (apologies to Mark Richt, he was a tipped pass away from destroying BK in the NC game instead of Bama).
Again, all the people that actually know football and can look at this objectively know Freeman has already won 1-2 games that Kelly couldn’t ever win.
He also appeared in a natty in year 3 at the D1 level and got blown out.
Again, you just think it's better because the labels are different.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
What do Christmas trees and SidewalkTiger have in common?
Their balls are just for decoration.
Their balls are just for decoration.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:14 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Except, he has, objectively. It’s not even debatable except in the head of some very confused LSU fans that try to grasp at straws to defend their Mark Richt lite coach (apologies to Mark Richt, he was a tipped pass away from destroying BK in the NC game instead of Bama).
Again, all the people that actually know football and can look at this objectively know Freeman has already won 1-2 games that Kelly couldn’t ever win.
Except Freeman hasn't reached any level, factually, that Brian Kelly didn't reach at Notre Dame.
Both lost in a National Championship game, but only Kelly has a win over #1 ranked team while at Notre Dame.
LSU CWS rain delay has me taking the bait again, lol.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:23 pm to John Casey
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Except Freeman hasn't reached any level, factually, that Brian Kelly didn't reach at Notre Dame.
This is a lie, objectively. BK never won a playoff semifinal. Freeman did. Those are objective facts.
Just because BK was gifted a NC game prior to playoffs existing when he had one of the easiest schedules, doesn’t mean he “reached the same level as Freeman.” Take UGA off the Texas schedule last year (both games) and put them back into the BCS format and Texas would have played in the NC game last year. That’s equivalent to what BK did…no conference championship, no playoff, just overrated team with very easy regular season (although I don’t think Texas would have quit at halftime and said their only chance to win was if the other team didn’t show up in the 2nd half…how embarrassing…I’d never hire a coach who said that).
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:30 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Just because BK was gifted a NC game prior to playoffs existing when he had one of the easiest schedules
2012 Notre Dame had the #8 strength of schedule that year, genius.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:30 pm to John Casey
Freeman was a 2x NY6 bowl champion this year. BK still has zero after 22 years in FBS.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:39 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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This is a lie, objectively. BK never won a playoff semifinal. Freeman did. Those are objective facts
I've been told pre-college football playoff, that every regular season game was a playoff game, so Kelly was 12-0 in playoff games in 2012 before the championship loss.
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Just because BK was gifted a NC game prior to playoffs existing when he had one of the easiest schedules, doesn’t mean he “reached the same level as Freeman.”
4-0 in ranked matchups (2-0 in Top 10 road games) in 2012.
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Take UGA off the Texas schedule last year (both games) and put them back into the BCS format and Texas would have played in the NC game last year.
Remove the playoff expansion to 12 and revert back to 4 and Freeman doesn't make a playoff in 2024.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:43 pm to Dallaswho
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Freeman was a 2x NY6 bowl champion this year. BK still has zero after 22 years in FBS
Different seasons played under different rules.
Original article in original post claimed Marcus Freeman is taking Notre Dame football to another level.
Highest level is National Championship game. Both made it there in 3rd season and lost to better team.
Until Freeman gets back to a 2nd National Championship game, he has reached no new level.
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:02 pm to SidewalkTiger
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2012 Notre Dame had the #8 strength of schedule that year, genius.
Yeah, that 3 point win against the mighty Purdue Boilmakers who lost 7 games that year was really hard for them. Or how about the 3 point TRIPLE OT win against the mighty Pitt Panthers who also finished with 7 losses.
Literally every team they played that regular season ended with 5 or more losses except 2, Oklahoma and Stanford…lololololol. LSU of all people should know how overrated OK has been and don’t even get me started on the powerhouse that is the Stanford Cardinal.
The only reason their schedule was ranked that high is because they didn’t play FCS teams and played “decent” G5 teams in Navy and BYU. The schedule was way overrated and their team was even more overrated than their schedule. Once again Sidewalk, you show you know very, very little about football.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:16 pm to John Casey
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I've been told pre-college football playoff, that every regular season game was a playoff game, so Kelly was 12-0 in playoff games in 2012 before the championship loss.
One problem with this, it was Sidewalk that said it and it was earlier in this thread. John, you’re smarter than quoting Sidewalk as a source and you can objectively realize that ND had the easiest path to the NC game during the BCS era due to setting their own schedule and not having a conference championship game. Even LSU fans were saying this prior to hiring Kelly and switching tunes to try to defend him.
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4-0 in ranked matchups (2-0 in Top 10 road games) in 2012.
Oh John, bless your heart. You just called a win at MSU that finished the regular season 6-6 a “top 10 road win.” This is why people don’t respect LSU fans’ football knowledge.
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Remove the playoff expansion to 12 and revert back to 4 and Freeman doesn't make a playoff in 2024.
While this may be true, there is zero chance that Texas and Penn State would have been ranked 3&4 after losses in their conference championship games if it was a 4 team playoff. It had never happened to 2 teams in the same playoff before. ND with an 11-1 record very well may have slipped into the 4 seed rather than 2 11-2 teams that lost their last game. Hard to know what they do with ND given their bad loss but better record. That said, OSU definitely wouldn’t have made it so it’s possible ND actually wins the NC if it was a 4 team playoff.
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