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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:25 pm to JayAg
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:25 pm to JayAg
According to most here, Brian Kelly built Notre Dame. Notre Dame had never had success, or won anything, until he arrived. Those 11 national championships they claim are all just made up. No, Brian Kelly made Notre Dame. Sidewalk said so.
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:32 pm to captdalton
If Nuss doesn’t throw 3 picks against A&M or 3 vs Bama, they might be right. Except, Kelly’s predictable lack of running game, bad special teams, and the defense not being to stop a running QB manifested themselves again. Like that defense never had to practice against J Daniels in practice or something the year before. Give me a break.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:35 pm to JayAg
Do you think some LSU fans will try to claim this thread as a major bowl win for Kelly? How crazy will it be if this thread is his first major bowl win?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:41 pm to captdalton
I think Sidewalk thinks we are fricking magic 8 balls the way he asks us questions to educate him about LSU ball. We didn’t even go there.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:45 pm to JayAg
To think he had a damn good chance to win $500 in this thread. That would have been enough for him to take a week off of work.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:48 pm to captdalton
It’s not even a Sidewalk thing, no LSU fans would take that bet. That’s basically taking your money.
You forget the “I bet the house on LSU” thread I did before their first game, was actually me betting and losing $100 on LSU losing to USC. I been burned by BK and LSU before.
You forget the “I bet the house on LSU” thread I did before their first game, was actually me betting and losing $100 on LSU losing to USC. I been burned by BK and LSU before.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:27 am to captdalton
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Have we compared Freeman’s record against playoff teams to Brian Kelly’s record against playoff teams? What about comparing Freeman’a record against top 10 teams and top 20 teams against Brian Kelly’s record against the same the last three years. So many numbers have been thrown out in this thread. Those would be pretty good to use in a coach comparison. And let’s not forget overall winning percentage. That is Sidewalk’s favorite.
If only someone could compile it all in one post that would answer the Freeman vs. Kelly debate.
It does seem, based on the internet, that Notre Dame fans are a lot happier with their current situation than are LSU fans. There have been some mad LSU fans in this thread.
Sidewalk isn't one of them for sure.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:45 am to captdalton
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According to most here, Brian Kelly built Notre Dame.
No one has claimed that. Kelly did, however, make them relevant again.
10 win seasons in the 15 years before Kelly: 2
10 win seasons during Kelly era: 7
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:53 am to JayAg
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:26 am to John Casey
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No one has claimed that. Kelly did, however, make them relevant again.
10 win seasons in the 15 years before Kelly: 2
10 win seasons during Kelly era: 7
You can't help these people
They can't read or think logically so they make up strawmen to argue against.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:29 am to Hback
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:36 am to Draconian Sanctions
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No coach has never left them willingly before, the message they heard was that Notre Dame wasn’t the pinnacle program in the sport anymore and that has absolutely enraged them.
That a coach would dare leave darling Notre Dame also severely triggered the national media.
This.
Even though Notre Dame hasn't won a national title since 1988 they are convinced that they never left the top of the football mountain.
Also, regarding the jilted lover angle, there are two very telling tidbits on Notre Dame's Wikipedia page:
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In so doing, Kelly became the first Irish head coach since Thomas A. Barry in 1907 to leave Notre Dame for another coaching job
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Kelly left the Irish as the program's all-time winningest head coach.
It's also a weird take because Freeman has literally only had 2025 to "prove" he can win big games... but I guess when you have Notre Dame's track record (predating Kelly by a good while) in big games, you take what you can get.
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The Fighting Irish suffered in a multi-decade skid with an 0-8 record in BCS/Playoff games and an 0-10 record in major bowl games between 1994 and 2025.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:08 am to skrayper
quote:Get out of here with those objective facts.
skrayper
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:54 am to JayAg
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We must be satisfied knocking Kelly out of a playoff run.
Yes, you have no choice other than to be satisfied in these victories since no one alive can be satisfied with an Aggot championship.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:53 am to jnethe1
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Yes, you have no choice other than to be satisfied in these victories since no one alive can be satisfied with an Aggot championship.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:57 am to skrayper
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Kelly left the Irish as the program's all-time winningest head coach.
Sidewalk must have added that, because he is neither their winningest coach by winning percentage or total wins. According to Wilipedia Kelly was 92-39 at Notre Dame.
Kelly: 92 wins, 70.2%
Rockne: 105 wins, 88.1%
Holtz: 100 wins, 76.5%
Parseghian: 95 wins, 83.6%
Leahy: 87 wins, 85.5%
Devine: 53 wins, 76.4%
Freeman: 33 wins: 76.7%
That is according to wikipedia.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 12:01 pm to JayAg
Why is this thread still going? The OP only gave a blind link.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 12:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
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They can't read or think logically so they make up strawmen to argue against.
Use your superior logic to explain this.
Record vs. top 25 teams.
2022 - Freeman: 4-2; Kelly: 2-2
2023 - Freeman: 3-2; Kelly: 1-3
2024 - Freeman: 7-1; Kelly: 1-3
In three seasons Freeman doesn’t have a losing record against top 25 opponents. Kelly doesn’t have a winning record against them. Overall Freeman is 14-5 while Kelly is 4-8. Ouch.
That strawmen just beat the hell out of Kelly.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 12:13 pm to jangalang
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Why is this thread still going? The OP only gave a blind link.
Be patient, we will get around to Hugh Freeze when we are done here.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:50 pm to Hback
We are just giving LSU a few Kelly stats that challenge how elite he is sold as.
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