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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?

Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:33 pm to
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Actually we don’t have Asperger’s so we don’t struggle with taking everything literally, word play debates, circular reasoning etc.

You are the LSU version of a grammar Nazi, but only “literal” logic Nazi. No critical thinking, no reading between the lines, no critical thinking skills from you.

You know that similar to a grammar Nazi, debating semantics and double standards doesn’t actually prove your points.


Point out one semantic argument I've made that's incorrect.

No deflections, no waffling, do it. It shouldn't be that hard, if you're being honest here.


This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
15409 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:34 pm to
It’s okay to judge Kelly on year 3, and he implied you can.

You don’t have to argue “literal” or “misinterpretation” or anything else.

What is your assessment of Kelly in year 3? Both good and bad

Btw, I agree with you that he didn’t promise a playoff or NC, I’m not holding him to that. But he does make it seem like there is some unsaid LSU standard he’s holding players accountable.
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 8:46 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:43 pm to
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It’s okay to judge Kelly on year 3, and he implied you can.

You don’t have to argue “literal” or “misinterpretation” or anything else.

What is your assessment of Kelly in year 3? Both good and bad


You said he told fans to judge him on year 3, that's false.

Pointing out that your lie isn't semantics, you lied, just own it.

If you want to judge him on year 3 or whatever, that's fine. No reason to lie about his statement though.


Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19698 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:53 pm to
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And I wouldn't regard 2024 Ohio State as even that great of a team when you look at them vs teams that Kelly lost to in the CFP.


Ohio State led all colleges with 14 draft picks in the 2025 NFL draft. That is just one shy of the all-time record of 15 set by Georgia in 2022. An astounding 64% of their starting lineup was drafted. Based on their insane number of draft picks it is easy to argue that Ohio State was a great team. In fact, they had more NFL draft picks than any of those other teams you reference.

2025 NFL Draft Tracker

This is a good example of you being either disingenuous or just stupid.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
15409 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:57 pm to
Im enjoying it. He has no football knowledge, stats, to back up Kelly is better that Freeman. He thinks being the Riddler asking questions proves his points, but it gives us a chance to unload.

I can just call Mizzou fans to throw me a clip if I run out of ammo for Sidewalk.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:57 pm to
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Ohio State led all colleges with 14 draft picks in the 2025 NFL draft. That is just one shy of the all-time record of 15 set by Georgia in 2022. An astounding 64% of their starting lineup was drafted. Based on their insane number of draft picks it is easy to argue that Ohio State was a great team. In fact, they had more NFL draft picks than any of those other teams you reference.

2025 NFL Draft Tracker

This is a good example of you being either disingenuous or just stupid.


Heck, let's say they were great.

If that's the case, Notre Dame did what they always do, collapse as soon as they face a "great team".

My comment stands though:
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And I wouldn't regard 2024 Ohio State as even that great of a team when you look at them vs teams that Kelly lost to in the CFP.





The teams Kelly lost to were a combined 28-0.

2024 Ohio State had two losses, just on their own.
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 9:18 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:58 pm to
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Im enjoying it. He has no football knowledge, stats, to back up Kelly is better that Freeman.


Again, I've never said Freeman is better than Kelly or vice versa.

We're back to your issues being the result of your own struggles with reading and comprehension.
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 9:34 pm
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
7891 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:29 pm to
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The teams Kelly lost to were a combined 28-0.
The Bama team that beat Dame in the natty, would have beaten OSU this year. IMHO. Great teams don't lose two games.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6285 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:33 pm to
They have valid reasons considering he got them in trouble with the NCAA and had more murderers than Urban Meyer.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
7891 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:35 pm to
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Only your baseball team won with Skenes. You mean an SEC West Championship football trophy?
You have to admit. Sidewalk toasted you after this comment. Those two alone is better than what aggy has in the last bazillion years.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
7420 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:35 pm to
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True. You aren't getting a good, proven coach on anything less than like 8 years these days. Mike Elko only had two years of head coaching experience and it took 6 years and $7 million per year to get him to A&M. Venables was a first time head coach and he got 6 years and $8.5 million per year. DeBoer had only been a head coach at the Division I level for 4 seasons and Alabama gave him 8 years, at a little over $11 million per year.


Pretty crazy that in his short tenure, he’s 6-0 against top 10 coaches in the country including one of them in the playoff semifinals. Some other coaches not to be named have been coaching 20+ years and still can’t win one of those (and DeBoer’s record would be 7-0 if that coach not to be named was a top 10 coach. Unfortunately, that coach’s successor at ND has exposed him and taken his spot in the top 10 list. I feel bad for whatever team is employing that coach who can’t win any big games after 2+ decades…surely they are getting a good bargain on a coach without any hardware).
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:37 pm to
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Pretty crazy that in his short tenure, he’s 6-0 against top 10 coaches in the country including one of them in the playoff semifinals. Some other coaches not to be named have been coaching 20+ years and still can’t win one of those (and DeBoer’s record would be 7-0 if that coach not to be named was a top 10 coach. Unfortunately, that coach’s successor at ND has exposed him and taken his spot in the top 10 list. I feel bad for whatever team is employing that coach who can’t win any big games after 2+ decades…surely they are getting a good bargain on a coach without any hardware).

Dude can make a natty at Washington yet can't even win the Reliaquest Bowl at BAMA
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2321 Boomed Your Sooner Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
37973 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:38 pm to
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Pretty crazy that in his short tenure DeBoer has the two most embarrassing losses in the last two decades for Alabama
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
7891 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:39 pm to
There were multiple reasons not to hire BK. It sucks when all a fanbase can do is wait. I am one who doesn't think BK has what is needed to make a natty game at LSU.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3666 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:46 pm to
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He has no football knowledge, stats, to back up Kelly is better that Freeman


At Notre Dame, up to this point, there is nothing to backup Freeman is better than Kelly at Notre Dame. They both have accomplished the same thing: a loss in the national championship game.

It would be like in 2020 arguing that Orgeron is better than Saban or Miles because of a one off season in 2019.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
7420 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Dude can make a natty at Washington yet can't even win the Reliaquest Bowl at BAMA


Dude made a natty with a RB at QB at Washington in year 1? Wow, that is impressive. Washington must be a better overall program than Bama
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:52 pm to
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Dude made a natty with a RB at QB at Washington in year 1?


Why would a coach have a RB at QB?

Seems like a bad evaluation.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
7420 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:58 pm to
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Why would a coach have a RB at QB?


2 words: Transfer portal


You know, the thing LSU fans try to inaccurately say led to BK starting with -4 players on their roster when he got there
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 10:00 pm to
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2 words: Transfer portal


Seems like he could've got a quarterback from there
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
7420 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 10:05 pm to
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Seems like he could've got a quarterback from there


He wanted to give BK a fighting chance since it was his 3rd year vs DeBoer’s 1st, game was in Baton Rouge, at night, etc.

If he had an actual QB, he knew he’d embarrass BK in front of the whole country by like 4 scores. How’d BK do in that one?
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