re: Notice of Allegations: LSU 1 | FINAL | NCAA

Not saying it won’t happen, and maybe this time around it will end up being true; but until either LSU or the NCAA acknowledges an NOA, this is just another “sources say” shite show. Pat Forde is the only one I can find directly reporting it. All the other sites (including the outkick article linked) are just linking Forde’s SI article.

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Smart sat out then got reinstated and played an entire season after.

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for the 10,000 time...........LSU explicitly said they cleared...........not the NCAA.

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"LSU has cleared freshman Javonte Smart for today's game against the University of Florida in the SEC men's basketball tournament. Smart has fully cooperated and participated in a joint inquiry with LSU and the NCAA resulting from reports of wiretapped conversations purportedly involving head coach Will Wade.

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Smart has been cleared by university officials for play on Friday."

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AGAIN, taken directly from LSU's statement.

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Again what is the new info? Do we know a dollar value or who actually paid who?

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we don't need new info. This is the culmination of the investigation......and we don't need a dollar amount. It is against NCAA rules to offer extra benefits to recruits.


Here is the bottom line.......

If this was happening at Auburn, bama, UGA or any other SEC school, this would be a HUGE deal. Because it's at LSU, you think it's a non-issue. Reality...........it's a huge issue for your school.

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12 consecutive months from the date of the NCAA announcement of sanctions, or the date of LSU’s first basketball game next season if Will Wade is still the coach.

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Sounds fine to me

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The bet you mentioned above wasn’t a bet at all. It was a comment I made that I wouldn’t post if Auburn lost. I posted for the one week following the Bama/LSU game and added two additional weeks to the end of the self imposed hiatus in return. I don’t feel bad about that. Nobody was involved with that but me.

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Well yeah, I know it was self-imposed. But I’m pretty sure when 99% of posters hear another poster say “I’ll stop posting for 2 months if so and so happens”, they mean 2 straight months of being gone. Not a week here, a day there, another week here until it accumulates into 2 months. Like you said, it was self imposed anyways but you don’t have to pretend you didn’t weasel your way around it.

Well that’s why I’m putting my posting privileges on the SECr for a year on the line I think WW is still our coach opening game next season.

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On an HBO documentary called The Scheme, which profiled Dawkins and the case, featured wiretapped audio of Wade saying the following: “I was thinking last night on this Smart thing. I’ll be honest with you, I’m f------ tired of dealing with the thing. Like I’m just f------ sick of dealing with the s---. “I went to him with a f------ strong-arse offer about a month ago. F------ strong. But the problem was, I know why he didn’t take it now, because it was it was f------ tilted toward the family a little bit. But I mean, it was a f------ hell of a f------ offer. Hell of an offer. Especially for a kid who is going to be a two- or three-year kid. I’ve made deals for a lot of players who are as good as him that were f------ a lot simpler than this.”


Could he be any trashier?

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Whether you're an LSU fan, or not, there's NO way one can realistically argue that Wade wasn't buying the kid, AND that he's bought others in the past.
Now if you want to say,"yeah, but...", or "everybody's doing it, so..." then have at it, even though it does NOTHING to diminish the offense.
My sincere suggestion is to follow L'il Willie's normal path, and crawl back into your hole, until either something good happens to the LSU Athletic program, or something bad happens to the Alabama program.
Then y'all can come out and pound your chests, or laugh and point your fingers!...but running with this situation is a stupid and disastrous move!

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And? Did I ever say smart was cleared by the NCAA? All I said was he was reinstated and played another season.

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You stated he was cleared. That was your argument that LSU did nothing wrong.

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Do you think if they found something in that investigation LSU would have allowed Smart to play?

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Let's be honest here........

we all heard the tape. Do you think a thorough investigation could have been done in just a few days? Smart missed one entire game. LSU rushed him back for the SEC Tourney.

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You do need some details.

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You have the HC, on tape, admitting to making an offer. This is not hearsay in any way, shape, or form. This is directly from the horses mouth.

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we all heard the tape. Do you think a thorough investigation could have been done in just a few days? Smart missed one entire game. LSU rushed him back for the SEC Tourney.

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The only thing they didn’t do was a colonoscopy on Javante and his mom. They checked every bank account either one of them had.

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You have the HC, on tape, admitting to making an offer. This is not hearsay in any way, shape, or form. This is directly from the horses mouth

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Well if he admitted it why is it taking so long?

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Well if he admitted it why is it taking so long?

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ask the NCAA. LSU is not the only thing on their plate. Hell, LSU bball is not the only thing on the NCAA's plate regarding LSU.

tPear paid for a guy who was 1x 2nd team SEC and has scored 31 total points in the NBA.

And got caught.

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Well yeah, I know it was self-imposed. But I’m pretty sure when 99% of posters hear another poster say “I’ll stop posting for 2 months if so and so happens”, they mean 2 straight months of being gone. Not a week here, a day there, another week here until it accumulates into 2 months. Like you said, it was self imposed anyways but you don’t have to pretend you didn’t weasel your way around it.

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That’s not the way it went down, though. I had an extended stretch of not posting, one week back on, where I addressed my self imposed ban in my first sentence of my first post by adding an additional two weeks, and then a super extended stretch of not posting - without any gaps.

You’re talking about a guy with nearly 40,000 posts - who voluntarily quit posting without anyone else’s skin in the game because I made a random comment in a random thread that mostly nobody would have remembered anyway. There aren’t many people here who would do that. Tuscaloosa is a man of his word, though, so I did that.