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Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:43 pm to lsufball19
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Do you have an example?
When you said you teach your sons one of the most important things in life is how you present yourself but then also argue that how you present yourself shouldn't matter
You are being argumentative.
First impressions matter.
Race, sex, color, hair style do not.
Any organization making a decision to hire or not based on the above can kiss it. Their loss.
Again, this is repetitive.
Cheers
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That is your "style" equivalent for your argument to hire black head coaches in the SEC?
What do you think my argument is for hiring black head coaches?
That is if they don't act like white people, they shouldn't expect to be hired (hair style, shoes).
Would you hire an off field football employee with dreds? What about position coach?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:44 pm to VADawg
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FWIW, if a white guy came into an interview with meth mouth and hadn't brushed his teeth, I'd treat that the exact same way.
If a white guy came in with sleeved out tattoo arms and piercings all over his face, he would be immediately judged unless he was trying to be a bartender or work at a garage.
For some reason, saying people should dress appropriately for the job they're striving to get is falling on some deaf ears.
Hell, Kelvin Shepard even talks about his dreads on Hard Knocks. He's the LB coach for the Lions. He said he was going to cut off his dreads to present more professionally until Dan Campbell told him not to. There's clearly a reason Shepard felt that was something he should do.
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:45 pm to Domeskeller
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Ed Orgeron... He’s white.
Is he though?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:47 pm to meansonny
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You are being argumentative.
I'm in an argument, so yes I am
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Any organization making a decision to hire or not based on the above can kiss it. Their loss.
Sounds like the people complaining about these hiring practices are saying it's them losing out
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That is if they don't act like white people, they shouldn't expect to be hired (hair style, shoes).
I didn't realize dressing professionally was a white thing. Good to know
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Would you hire an off field football employee with dreds? What about position coach?
I might tell them to lose the dreads
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:49 pm to VADawg
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I commented about dredlocks. We agree to disagree.
Is hiring a coach with dredlocks different in an off field position? How about a position group coach?
Still a "no go" with dreds?
I think they're trashy as shite and set a bad example for impressionable college aged kids, so yes.
UGA has had Jarvis Jones on staff a couple of times. I personally think he sets an excellent example for college aged kids. Do you even know where he came from to where he got in life?
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FWIW, if a white guy came into an interview with meth mouth and hadn't brushed his teeth, I'd treat that the exact same way.
I think it is disgusting that you would treat someone with dreds equivalent to someone who is hooked on meth.
I can't see your line of thinking at all. Do you think Kelee Ringo should be eligible for team captain in 2022?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:52 pm to lsufball19
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That is if they don't act like white people, they shouldn't expect to be hired (hair style, shoes).
I didn't realize dressing professionally was a white thing. Good to know
Forgive me for speaking on your behalf. You asked me to.
And your argument that dredlocks are unprofessional for a college football head coach is the equivalent to black QBs aren't smart enough for the NFL.
Again, you asked me what your line of thinking is. There it is.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:53 pm to meansonny
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And your argument that dredlocks are unprofessional for a college football head coach is the equivalent to black QBs aren't smart enough for the NFL.
Yeah, no
Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The Bat signal was lit up after that Vandy game so Batman could haul his arse away.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:01 pm to meansonny
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And your argument that dredlocks are unprofessional for a college football head coach is the equivalent to black QBs aren't smart enough for the NFL.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:01 pm to lsufball19
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For some reason, saying people should dress appropriately for the job they're striving to get is falling on some deaf ears.
There is dressing appropriately for a job and an employer making a hiring decision based on "style".
That is not necessarily the same thing despite you being argumentative and trying to explain that a hair style should be enough to not hire the most qualified candidate for the job.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:03 pm to Hback
Yeah. I said it.
Dredlocks are a hair style. Making that an automatic rejection in the hiring process is the equivalent to 1980s football talk about QBs.
Dredlocks are a hair style. Making that an automatic rejection in the hiring process is the equivalent to 1980s football talk about QBs.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:14 pm to meansonny
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There is dressing appropriately for a job and an employer making a hiring decision based on "style".
So it took all these pages of arguing for you to say you just disagree about dreads specifically being inappropriate, not that appearances, in general, don't and shouldn't matter. You could have just led off with that. So you think dreads are cool and blue hair isn't, good to know
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trying to explain that a hair style should be enough to not hire the most qualified candidate for the job.
I didn't say that, actually. I think it's pretty clear you were so balls deep in your own argument that you didn't care to actually try to give any attention to anyone else's stance. Saying "agree to disagree" to everyone isn't doing that
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:24 pm to lsufball19
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So it took all these pages of arguing for you to say you just disagree about dreads specifically being inappropriate, not that appearances, in general, don't and shouldn't matter.
You can't read.
Me in this thread (literally my first post on this string of arguments).
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Hair style has no impact on the ability to coach a game
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Half of the high power attorneys in Georgia have hippy pony tails.
Things matter to people who make them matter. If your focus is on a hair cut, your focus may not be on track record or things of merit.
If someone is in a position to hire, they can pick their own criteria. But "choice of style" is not on my list of requirements.
Over half of the millionaires in Georgia drive pickup trucks. "Style" is a poor excuse for discriminating candidates.
And I have been candid that your use of "appearance" is too broad for the topic because appearance includes race, sex, color. And "style" which has been my repeated point all along.
Any business choosing to decline a candidate based on style over their merit is a loser business and not worth the candidate's time. There are crappy businesses and crappy cultures out there.
I'm glad you are catching up.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:27 pm to meansonny
Damn white peoples
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:28 pm to meansonny
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Any business choosing to decline a candidate based on style over their merit is a loser business and not worth the candidate's time.
do the New York Yankees count?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:33 pm to lsufball19
Don’t they just require the player to clean up after signing them though? I don’t think it’s a prerequisite before they consider someone.
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:36 pm to meansonny
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Dredlocks are a hair style
So is rainbow mohawk. I'm not hiring someone who comes in sporting that in an interview either. There are a lot of things someone can do in a job interview that automatically disqualifies them. Lack of professionalism is at the top. Sporting dreadlocks in a job interview tells me what you think of the organization you're interviewing for. You don't see it that way. You aren't going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours.
As for your Ringo question earlier, I hold coaches and players to different standards. If his teammates think he is worthy of being voted captain, that's their decision.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:38 pm to rockiee
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Don’t they just require the player to clean up after signing them though? I don’t think it’s a prerequisite before they consider someone.
Guys have to be willing to shave their faces and cut their hair before signing with NYY. It has cost them a few free agents, but they stick to their guns.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:44 pm to lsufball19
The Yankees are confused.
Sideburns. No sideburns. Short cuts. Long hair permitted.
I don't know if outspending the world for players makes them a good organization or not. They act like their money can buy anything, though (including players' hair cuts).
But your point is noted.
Oscar Gamble. Yankees 1976.
Sideburns. No sideburns. Short cuts. Long hair permitted.
I don't know if outspending the world for players makes them a good organization or not. They act like their money can buy anything, though (including players' hair cuts).
But your point is noted.
Oscar Gamble. Yankees 1976.
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