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NIL and the rich schools

Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:32 am
Posted by GodnCountry
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:32 am
When you look up the richest schools in a search, you find hardly any SEC schools.

Explain what's keeping, let's say Harvard, from deciding they want to compete and throwing their wealth at a notable coach and just out right buy players?

Or teams with more success than they have had. Northwestern?


Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5682 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:37 am to
That's why the teams that are dominating now will continue to dominate in the NIL-era.
Simply look at how much boosters are giving to programs already and it will be directly proportional to their money spent on NIL.

You have to care about the program first. That's why OU will continue to beat UCLA. Doesn't matter that one is in Los Angeles and the other is in Norman.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:38 am to
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Explain what's keeping, let's say Harvard, from deciding they want to compete and throwing their wealth at a notable coach and just out right buy players?


Because its administration is far to the left and hates football?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65038 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Explain what's keeping, let's say Harvard, from deciding they want to compete and throwing their wealth at a notable coach and just out right buy players?



Their school administrators, that's what. SEC schools like Alabama and Texas A&M have the backing of the administration as well as the financial aid of big-money boosters who are rabid fans and who put a lot of money into the program. Harvard does not have that advantage.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:45 am to
OP you really don’t understand how major college football works if you are asking this question.
Also didn’t even read the changes coming either.

There may be some shifting in the pecking order but nobody knows how this will play out... but your questions aren’t relevant.
Posted by GodnCountry
Member since Jan 2021
695 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:46 am to
I think the landscape will change. It will happen faster then people think too.

We will see some schools who have decided to not play the game start. You will see some teams that have played the game be tapped out. Nothing left to give. Then others will have more step up to get in on the action.


For better or worse, we are here. But I suspect this will do way more harm, specifically to the SEC, than good.


There are schools that will pony up and it will mean southern players headed towrds the west...etc

Posted by VolsUberAlles
Member since Feb 2021
1724 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:48 am to
Baton Rouge may not have a lot of money, but they are rich in homicides and cockroaches per capita.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:50 am to
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I think the landscape will change. It will happen faster then people think too.

We will see some schools who have decided to not play the game start. You will see some teams that have played the game be tapped out. Nothing left to give. Then others will have more step up to get in on the action.


For better or worse, we are here. But I suspect this will do way more harm, specifically to the SEC, than good.


There are schools that will pony up and it will mean southern players headed towrds the west...etc


A school can't legally pay players anymore now than they could before NIL.
Posted by GodnCountry
Member since Jan 2021
695 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:51 am to
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Their school administrators, that's what. SEC schools like Alabama and Texas A&M have the backing of the administration as well as the financial aid of big-money boosters



So you are saying that the school admin will say "it's legal now, but no. We will not allow it!"?

You think Harvard alumni is not dedicated to Harvard as much as our fans and alumni are?


Posted by GodnCountry
Member since Jan 2021
695 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:52 am to
quote:

A school can't legally pay players anymore now than they could before NIL.




And here is the guy who thinks this is a smart comment.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:54 am to
This is what you said:

quote:

There are schools that will pony up 


The schools themselves can't "pony up."

There is no reason to believe anything will change.
Posted by GodnCountry
Member since Jan 2021
695 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:08 am to
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This is what you said:

quote:
There are schools that will pony up 


The schools themselves can't "pony up."


Play your word games brother.


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There is no reason to believe anything will change.


Sure there is. It's called NIL and it will come down to the best deals!

That comes down to money. I'm using Harvard because they are D1. They are the richestest in the nation.

They, should they choose, they could hire a guy who wants to make a mark and name. Give him the salary. Build the complex needed, and line up the deals to get the players and the money used would be a drop in the bucket to what they have.

Are you seriously going to suggest that they could not do that?

Why don't you pull up the list of colleges with the most. Tell me who is on that list.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:12 am to
quote:

They, should they choose, they could hire a guy who wants to make a mark and name. Give him the salary. Build the complex needed, and line up the deals to get the players and the money used would be a drop in the bucket to what they have.

Are you seriously going to suggest that they could not do that?

Why don't you pull up the list of colleges with the most. Tell me who is on that list.


Sure they can.

They also could've been doing that for the last 20 years just like the SEC schools have been.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30279 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:20 am to
In theory the wealth of the school should have no bearing on NIL.
Posted by GodnCountry
Member since Jan 2021
695 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:28 am to
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They also could've been doing that for the last 20 years just like the SEC schools have been.


Not if the concern of a bad name from getting caught stopped them.

There is no fear factor at all anymore.


You want to know who is on that top 20 list? I can tell you its not LSU. It's not even Bama. I will remove the non football schools...

Stanford University
University of Pennsylvania

Northwestern University
University of Southern California
University of Texas
University of Notre Dame

University of California

University of Miami

University of Virginia

Did you see an SEC school in there?


University of Michigan
Posted by GodnCountry
Member since Jan 2021
695 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:30 am to
quote:

In theory the wealth of the school should have no bearing on NIL.




Where does the wealth come from. From Alumni that make the money via businesses.

Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30963 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:31 am to
quote:

When you look up the richest schools


I don’t think you quite understand how NIL works.

Schools and their money have nothing to do with it.

Big money boosters and other corporations that are directly in bed with the universities are where the money will come from.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14057 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Explain what's keeping, let's say Harvard, from deciding they want to compete and throwing their wealth at a notable coach and just out right buy players?


Only the limits of your imagination it seems.
Posted by GodnCountry
Member since Jan 2021
695 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:37 am to
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I don’t think you quite understand how NIL works.


Good Lord.... Yes I do.

quote:

Schools and their money have nothing to do with it.

Big money boosters and other corporations that are directly in bed with the universities are where the money will come from.



Where do you think that list of top 20 schools came from?

We all know the topic. We know the sources of money. But like Sidewalk, you can play your word games.


The top 20 US universities with the wealthiest alumni, ranked.... No SEC schools on that list. Period.


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Not if the concern of a bad name from getting caught stopped them.

There is no fear factor at all anymore.



You want to know who is on that top 20 list? I can tell you its not LSU. It's not even Bama. I will remove the non football schools...

Stanford University
University of Pennsylvania

Northwestern University
University of Southern California
University of Texas
University of Notre Dame

University of California

University of Miami

University of Virginia

Did you see an SEC school in there?


University of Michigan


I see several schools that have been involved in plenty of scandal so not sure why you insist they're scared of getting a bad name now.

Several of those schools would be competitive right now if they got the right head coach in place, NIL doesn't affect that at all.

Several of those schools will never be competitive because their academic standards are too stringent. Another thing that NIL doesn't affect.

You haven't made a good case as to why NIL would change anything.

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