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re: Nick Saban pushes for players to 'unionize,' has 'no problem' with athletes being paid
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:59 am to bamameister
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:59 am to bamameister
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This is a billion-dollar business and players are the main assets. They should have a say as employees. Coach Saban is right. If the grownups can only throw cold hard cash, and greed at these problems, let the kids be totally invested and see what they can do in a CBA.
He's absolutely wrong.
NIL is outside the purview of college sports.
Employees.
Not employees.
Union.
No union.
None of it stops Nike from throwing money at athletes.
None of it stops Morgan and Morgan from throwing money at athletes.
Nothing stops a Dodge dealership in Tuscaloosa from throwing money at athletes.
How many simpletons are on this site?
Nothing out of Saban's mouth is credible.
It is 100% designed to help him and his team win.
And for the salary he makes, I don't blame him.
But why do fools fall for his shite?
That I will never understand.
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:01 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Saban needs to be taken away to a home with biden
One’s trying to ruin our country and one is trying to ruin college football
Both know they can’t win if they can’t cheat
No truer words have been spoken, the most accurate post ive read on here in a while.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:08 pm to meansonny
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But why do fools fall for his shite?
That I will never understand.
Tide fans here realize that, and some of us love to "poke the monkey".
It's like the old adage:
"If you bait a trap with pussy, you'll catch 90% of the guys every time."
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:22 pm to meansonny
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NIL is outside the purview of college sports.
It sure is, meanwhile, greedy cigar-smoking boosters are throwing ridiculous amounts of money at these players hoping to change football fortunes. Nothing like unregulated greed to show us the way to prosperity.
It would be far easier to feel good about whatever decision is made in college football if we actually knew what the overall labor force would do if it were given its own democratic vote.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:55 pm to Anand0925
Sabans stance is right. If you're gonna have pay for play, which we have. Anybody that thought this would be otherwise was too ignorant to get out of the rain.
Then just make them employees and pay them a salary. You can't get a little bit pregnant.
When Ed O'Bannon got the govt involved, collegiate athletics basically died that day. Thanks Ed. All for a cover of a video game.
Then just make them employees and pay them a salary. You can't get a little bit pregnant.
When Ed O'Bannon got the govt involved, collegiate athletics basically died that day. Thanks Ed. All for a cover of a video game.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:55 pm to bamameister
Free markets suck shite for sports competition. That’s why none of the major sports leagues operate like unfettered free market enterprises.
A regulatory system that the ownership agrees to operate under is what keeps their products interesting and profitable.
Accordingly, when such regulatory instruments come into being, the athletes need to collectivize to avoid getting crushed by the system seeking to minimize their compensation to maximize profit for the ownership.
College athletics is doing this in a weird one-degree removed way to avoid calling the athletes employees of the university but essentially it is still the ownership putting players on payroll. The same people that foot the bills for the AD are standing up these collective. Let’s stop acting like this is anything more than legal sophistry.
A regulatory system that the ownership agrees to operate under is what keeps their products interesting and profitable.
Accordingly, when such regulatory instruments come into being, the athletes need to collectivize to avoid getting crushed by the system seeking to minimize their compensation to maximize profit for the ownership.
College athletics is doing this in a weird one-degree removed way to avoid calling the athletes employees of the university but essentially it is still the ownership putting players on payroll. The same people that foot the bills for the AD are standing up these collective. Let’s stop acting like this is anything more than legal sophistry.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:32 pm to Anand0925
Power to the people making the money happen? That’s just dumb, said the super smart southern state residents with their massive economies and no reliance on handouts.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:46 pm to Anand0925
Ok Saban, you want it like the NFL, then do a draft as well. Then you can’t stack 5 stars every single fricking year ya idiot
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:03 pm to Anand0925
What's going to happen is that NCAA players are going to unionize and they are all going to want to be paid equally. That's my prediction anyway.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 3:15 pm to bamameister
quote:BLM was founded by self serving, self proclaimed, Marxists who kept all the money for themselves. They were fully supported by big corporations, big tech, and the establishment. MLK, who preached content of character over color of skin, was the polar opposite of BLM... junior
The BLM marches were for the same reason Martin Luther King was marching in the 60s. Nothing new under the sun Junior.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:10 pm to Capn_Bevo
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BLM was founded by self serving, self proclaimed, Marxists who kept all the money for themselves. They were fully supported by big corporations, big tech, and the establishment. MLK, who preached content of character over color of skin, was the polar opposite of BLM... junior
The funny thing about BLM is that it was actually a grass roots movement but there was a quick co-opting by a cadre of grifters that created an actual BLM 503c. Many left-leaning commentators think that it was both a grift to lasso white liberal dollars AND an attempt to shepherd the movement towards political goals amenable to the Democratic Party (not too radically left).
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:30 pm to Capn_Bevo
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BLM was founded by self serving, self proclaimed, Marxists who kept all the money for themselves.
Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement that seeks to highlight racism, discrimination, and racial inequality experienced by black people. Its primary concerns are incidents of police brutality and racially motivated violence against black people.
Nice try, but that still makes you an idiot.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:33 pm to Anand0925
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Everything they do in the NFL is to create what? Parity," Saban said. "If they can have everybody going into the 17th week of the season 8-8, that would be like a dream for the NFL. You think there is disparity right now in college football? There's going to be more in the future."
So when are we starting the drafts?
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:37 pm to bamameister
quote:That has a global foundation that was sued by local chapters. Also, donations to their website went directly to ActBlue.
Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement
quote:Maybe they should focus on the 100 times more black people that get murdered by other black people instead of the 20 or so unarmed black people killed by cops each year.
that seeks to highlight racism, discrimination, and racial inequality experienced by black people. Its primary concerns are incidents of police brutality and racially motivated violence against black people.
Nice try, but that still makes you an idiot.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:40 pm to bamameister
Saban at one time was the voice of success in the game, now he has become like many in the game. No problem with his one of many options, he just isn't listen to by much. He isn't as thought today as before, sad but true.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:41 pm to Irons Puppet
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Saban at one time was the voice of success in the game, now he has become like many in the game. No problem with his one of many options, he just isn't listen to by much. He isn't as thought today as before, sad but true.
But I was told he stopped the 9 game schedule
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:44 pm to Capn_Bevo
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Maybe they should focus on the 100 times more black people that get murdered by other black people instead of the 20 or so unarmed black people killed by cops each year.
Maybe you should spend some time in black museums, and old archives and hear all the racist crapola there as well.
As I said, there is nothing new under the sun. Including your prejudice.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:47 pm to Irons Puppet
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Saban at one time was the voice of success in the game, now he has become like many in the game. No problem with his one of many options, he just isn't listen to by much. He isn't as thought today as before, sad but true.
Plus, now you have the great moralist and bible-thumping, Hugh Freeze when you just need that philosophical edge to your game.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 5:03 pm to Anand0925
Every time Saban bitches about something in the past 10-15 years in college football - HUHN, spread offense, rules to benefit offensive production, now the portal and NIL - everybody says he’s whining and the game has passed him by.
Here’s a tip: Listen to the man. If he asks “Is this what we want football to be?” I assure you if the answer is “Yes it is” he’s already got it figured out and will adapt and keep whipping your azzes.
Here’s a tip: Listen to the man. If he asks “Is this what we want football to be?” I assure you if the answer is “Yes it is” he’s already got it figured out and will adapt and keep whipping your azzes.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 5:07 pm to tide06
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CFB is in a death spiral
It’s on life support but I fear that the condition is terminal.
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