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New Mizzou admin finally goes on the direct offensive against CS1950

Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:38 pm
Calls them out directly for refusing to meet face to face, for making demands that are illegal under state and federal law, and generally flying in the face of the legacy folks like MLK intended. Good stuff. Better late than never.
Lowering the boom on the BS
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:39 pm to
Finely. Been wadin' for ajes.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:42 pm to
About time...

Mizzou should've held their ground from the start.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:05 pm to
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Mizzou should've held their ground from the start.


Hopefully in the end of all this we can say Mizzou bent but didn't break. They certainly did plenty of bending this fall, now it's time for them to step up and squash this shite. They've made good progress this week by firing Click and issuing these statements.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:08 pm to
Now confronted with a legit argument, the SJWs will call them racist and scurry off
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:09 pm to
Good. Happy for the sane ppl of Missouri.

Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:12 pm to
How much you want to bet this change in attitude was driven by a change in the dollars coming in?
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:16 pm to
That is awesome. About time!
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:17 pm to

mizzou fired pinkel but then stupidly hired him to stick around, guess he's a good reminder of what failure to lead looks like.

Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:20 pm to
What you want to bet the bunch doing the demand are in it for the money.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:24 pm to
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How much you want to bet this change in attitude was driven by a change in the dollars coming in?

That's always a factor for every decision, but conversely the threat of losing dollars on an upcoming football game with BYU when the football players were striking is what led to Mizzou's knee jerk reaction in the first place. It's easy to nitpick in hindsight, but the fact is half the football team started striking which was rather unprecedented and at the time the school reacted to preserve that revenue flow in the short term however it could. It was messy but predictable.

Right now is the perfect time for Mizzou to go on the offensive - the interim President is a former campus civil rights leader himself so they aren't going to attack him or call for his head, and football season is over.

Hell, the only thing the men's basketball team could make threats with at this point would be to keep on playing the remainder of their 2016 season to the end rather than just stopping now and striking. That's actually really scary.
Posted by NEMizzou
Columbia MO
Member since Nov 2013
1369 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:24 pm to
The man writing the letter, for reference; he's been a professor at the law school for some time, went to Georgetown and Yale and has been at MU since 2009:

Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:27 pm to
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What you want to bet the bunch doing the demand are in it for the money.

Well the ringleader's dad makes like $7 million per year, so he's obviously not. A seventh year out-of-state grad student to boot. Strange that for a university that made him feel so "unwelcome" or "unsafe" etc and with millions of dollars at his family's disposal, he couldn't find anywhere else to go get his 7 years-and-counting education that was more hospitable. Most curious.

My guess is the kid is probably aiming to make a political career out of this in the long run, making a name for himself locally then use daddy's war chest to run for whatever the hell office somewhere.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:27 pm to
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The man writing the letter, for reference;


yes, the "interim chancellor" who got a job when one of the "white privilege" guys stepped down..


NOW, he want's the nonsense to stop!


sure, yea, NOW..



Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:29 pm to

speaking of mizzoo.. according to the rant here:

LINK


anyone seen quifess over on the mizzou board lately?

Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:57 pm to
I'm very happy with the actions of this week. Firing Melissa Click, then following up with a proper scolding of the protesters. By people they can't claim are racist, even! I am not a fan of Mike Middleton, but it seems he has committed, at least somewhat, to doing his interim job effectively for the best interests of the University despite his own leanings.

I would guess that reasonable people of color, who truly want to see progress made in racial relations and equality, are not appreciative of this sideshow. CS1950 has taken it too far, as I expected they would, and are harming the actual cause. For those who only want strife, publicity and money...sorry.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78922 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:07 pm to
Good. Mizzou needs to shed their cuck status and get with the program. Allowing yourself to be hijacked by a bunch of student faux activists shouldn't be acceptable.

Props to Mizzou in beginning the process.

ETA:

Frick that, may those people burn in eternal hell for this demand

quote:

Additions: A statue of Lloyd Gaines placed at Mel Carnahan Quadrangle, $6,000 put toward social justice centers and $250,000 toward an expansion of the Gaines Oldham Black Culture Center.


Are they serious?
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:14 pm to
Spot on. In a strange way the best thing for Mizzou to fully recapture its image at this point may be for CS1950 to keep making demands, because each one gets more ridiculous, giving Mizzou more opportunity to say hey, we initially tried to be responsive to our students but it turns out we were ambushed by a lunatic fringe that even the long time civil rights leaders on campus have found to be unreasonable. Case closed, lesson learned.

I think at this point the main thing is to get this Jonathan Butler kid graduated already, 7 years is freaking enough. If demands this loony are the best they can do now with him, think how rudderless and inept the group will be when he's gone. Whatever tap dance can be done short of expelling him to politely tell this kid "ok, it's been 7 years, here's a degree you yourself tarnished, buh bye now," do it.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:45 pm to
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Frick that, may those people burn in eternal hell for this demand

quote:
Additions: A statue of Lloyd Gaines placed at Mel Carnahan Quadrangle, $6,000 put toward social justice centers and $250,000 toward an expansion of the Gaines Oldham Black Culture Center.


Are they serious?

Oh, they're dead serious. They might receive some support for the statue. But the rest of it? It's another step taken too far, an over-reach.

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In a strange way the best thing for Mizzou to fully recapture its image at this point may be for CS1950 to keep making demands, because each one gets more ridiculous

I said from the outset of this mess that once they got a little support, they'd go to far, like most radical groups do. They show themselves to be unreasonable and radical, and lose support of those of us in the middle. Then, they become marginalized, isolated and ultimately, a footnote. The people who matter - opinion leaders, donors, alumni, etc. - are quietly taking back control with money and other support, or by withholding same. Unless a group's mission and objectives are clear and achievable from the outset, they ultimately fragment and fail. We're seeing that beginning here.

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I think at this point the main thing is to get this Jonathan Butler kid graduated already

You nailed it earlier when you speculated that he plans a political career. I'd bet money on it. This is his case study, and probably the basis for his thesis. He needs to go. The sooner the better. Seven years and still no masters degree? Come on, man...
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7823 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 4:01 pm to
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3. “We demand that by the academic year 2017/­2018, the University of Missouri increases the percentage of black faculty and staff campus­wide to 10%.” Additions: "Targeted hiring" of more black faculty for the purpose of proving that the University "values black scholars."



Man, a first year Con Law class would put an end to most of these idiots' bantering.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 4:07 pm
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