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re: NCAA Rules Committee Proposes to Eliminate HUNH
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:24 am to NYCAuburn
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:24 am to NYCAuburn
What in Hell, dude? This is a pointless issue. It will have no effect on player safety, either way. And even if a rule change occurs, it is not going to stop what Auburn is trying to accomplish offensively.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:24 am to WDE24
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Oregon ranked 39th and only ran 10 more plays per game than 116th ranked Bama.
I stand corrected. Apparently, Oregon doesn't run it exclusively either.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:25 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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The HUNH takes away the chess match of football. It's a sucker punch.
Truly the dumbest statement I've seen so far.
It really does rank up there as one of the dumbest.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:25 am to NYCAuburn
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I thought chess was about strategy with the players you have on the board not changing your players out for each move.
You see, that is your fundamental misunderstanding of chess. I have never lost in chess because I have a couple of back up knights, queens, and rooks that I am able to substitute in for my pawns when needed, if they are gassed. If you recruit the best, you get to play the best. Speed chess really hinders my abilities, which is why i refuse to play their gimmicks.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 11:29 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:27 am to DaBama
quote:Oregon and AU run a HUNH that features the running game, so they don't really run that many more plays. The teams at the top of the plays per game category are pass heavy teams because they are stopping the clock much more.
I stand corrected. Apparently, Oregon doesn't run it exclusively either.
If this were really about player safety as it relates to "more snaps equals more injuries," then we would limit the number of passing plays or not stop the clock after an incompletion. That leads to more plays than the HUNH.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:27 am to DaBama
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Isn't that what he's doing by pushing for the rule change?
I agree with you. If Saban wants to counter the HUNH, he needs to run it himself.
Several programs have already figured out how to Sub players when facing a HUNH offense. Auburn and several others do this. The biggest thing is conditioning of the players and having the players waiting and ready at the end of the play to sub in and out. The problem is that the DL is the ones this is rough on, swapping them in and out means they actually run more than they would during a play.
I'd be shocked if this gets passed but the NCAA has done a lot worse in the past.
I espect you'll see a rule about offensive guys lowering their heads and the defense being unable to do that.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:28 am to DaBama
This def is not about number of plays run and player safety.
Ole Miss ran the most plays per game last year with 78.3 plays. Bama ran the fewest with 63.5.
That is 14.8 plays a game difference from top to bottom. That is less than 4 plays a quarter.
Ole Miss ran the most plays per game last year with 78.3 plays. Bama ran the fewest with 63.5.
That is 14.8 plays a game difference from top to bottom. That is less than 4 plays a quarter.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:28 am to GoCrazyAuburn
I heard it has caused Carpal Tunnel Syndrome because you have to stop the timer so many times. It is an injury plagued type of chess indeed. I can't back that up with anything, but I know I am right.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:29 am to rangers911
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CHizik let a lot of things go to his head
Yeah he did. Malzahn was clearly the brains behind the operation. Either Chizik couldn't see it or he was determined to prove to everyone that it wasn't the case. Either way, he hung himself.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:31 am to WDE24
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That is fine. But your argument is more football equals more opportunities for injuries. Not a particular action isn't safe. There is nothing, other than saying football itself is dangerous on some level, to justify this rules change form a player safety stand point.
Not exactly. Why does boxing and MMA limit the number of rounds? Why not until someone is knocked out or dead? Certain sports ARE more dangerous which is why you limit them not eliminate them.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:31 am to parkjas2001
This rule change is not about the number of plays. It is about being able to sub.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:31 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Currently I am working with the Scaphoid Fracture Society on this. One day we will be able to play chess injury free.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:33 am to GoCrazyAuburn
The work you are doing is admirable. I am sure it will benefit Chess athletes everywhere. You sir are a light tower in the thickest of fogs, bringing safety to all who see you. 
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:34 am to graves1
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This rule change is not about the number of plays. It is about being able to sub.
Agree completely, I was just pointing out there is precedent to limit dangerous sports...and football IS dangerous as is any violent, contact sport. Heck, as long as rules allow the defense to sub when they need and get set, make the quarters 2 minutes longer so offenses can still run 85 plays a game. I'm fine with that.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:35 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:35 am to tider04
quote:The analogy to rounds is equivalent to quarters. We should just shorten the game to two quarters then.
Why does boxing and MMA limit the number of rounds? Why not until someone is knocked out or dead? Certain sports ARE more dangerous which is why you limit them not eliminate them.
Does boxing or MMA put a limit on number of hits per round or require that the attacker pause long enough after each strike to allow the defender to put his guard back up or get in a better position to defend against the attack?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:35 am to WDE24
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If this were really about player safety as it relates to "more snaps equals more injuries," then we would limit the number of passing plays or not stop the clock after an incompletion. That leads to more plays than the HUNH.
That's a good point. I never bought that this was about limiting injuries anyway. This is about giving defenses time to make adjustments whether it be alignment changes or putting the proper personnel on the field.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:36 am to graves1
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This rule change is not about the number of plays. It is about being able to sub.
And I thought it couldn't get any worse
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:37 am to graves1
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This rule change is not about the number of plays
Interesting but incorrect
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:37 am to DaBama
quote:Exactly. We can fairly and honestly debate this topic. I will disagree, but at least it will be an honest discussion.
This is about giving defenses time to make adjustments whether it be alignment changes or putting the proper personnel on the field.
My biggest issue is exploiting a false player safety issue to counter someones on field strategy. If you think the game should be changed based on fundamental strategic issues then propose the rule change on that front.
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