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re: NCAA Rules Committee Proposes to Eliminate HUNH
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:47 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:47 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
Because running down your throat is considered p$ssy bush league ball huh? Might as well line up with no pads and intramural flag belts all in the name of safety... maybe they need to instigate rules prohibiting supposedly injured players from reentering the game after taking a flop...
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:48 pm to DoreonthePlains
It does, and I think the powers at be needed to look at it and decide if that is the direction they think football should be going. Does it make the game better or worse? I prefer old school football, maybe it is because Alabama usually has played this way and I grew up watching that, but it is what I enjoy seeing.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:49 pm to fontell
quote:No, it's giving the defense the same opportunity to substitute that the offense has. How is that not fair?
This is giving out a handicapped parking pass to Kirby and Bert
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:49 pm to coachcrisp
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What they're saying in essence is the offense has the ability to sub whenever they want to because they control the ball snap, so the defense should have that right,too. It sounds reasonable to me.
The thread is just trolling and flaming. The rule, in practice, will have little impact.
Currently...the 40s clock starts when the current play is dead.
Takes 4-5s to spot the ball for the next play
Takes 3-4s for the offense to communicate the play and get set
....that's pretty close to 10s without any clock rule in play.
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:50 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
has anyone mentioned that there is no way in hell this passes?
like absolutely no way they let this happen
it has too many negative effects on the game like if a team is down 2 scores with 5 minutes left
there is just no way
like absolutely no way they let this happen
it has too many negative effects on the game like if a team is down 2 scores with 5 minutes left
there is just no way
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:50 pm to DoreonthePlains
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True, but if he wants to bring in the chess analogy then its fair game.
Except your point makes little sense whatsoever. Chess hasn't changed at all in more than a hundred years. World Championship tournaments frequently see turns that last for 30 minutes while players figure out how best to strike at their opposition. They can't just move a piece and then, just before their opponent can react, move that same piece some place else.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:50 pm to undecided
Didn't read the whole thread but here's my take on it.
I don't have a problem with teams that play fast and snap the ball with :35 seconds left. If your team is conditioned enough to do that then by all means do it.
My problem is the teams that take advantage of the current rule (most that run HUNH). Run a play and sprint up to the line preventing the defense from subbing, only to look over to the sideline for the play call. Oregon is one of the only teams that runs a pure HUNH when they get going. They are sprinting to the line and snapping the ball when their players get set. Other teams do it to strictly keep the defense from subbing. They're just running up to the line and then taking another 10-15 seconds to call the play and snap the ball. That is chicken shite.
I don't have a problem with teams that play fast and snap the ball with :35 seconds left. If your team is conditioned enough to do that then by all means do it.
My problem is the teams that take advantage of the current rule (most that run HUNH). Run a play and sprint up to the line preventing the defense from subbing, only to look over to the sideline for the play call. Oregon is one of the only teams that runs a pure HUNH when they get going. They are sprinting to the line and snapping the ball when their players get set. Other teams do it to strictly keep the defense from subbing. They're just running up to the line and then taking another 10-15 seconds to call the play and snap the ball. That is chicken shite.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:50 pm to RollTide1987
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I have always loved defense
LSU shut down Manziel, Auburn, and even Oregon. This isn't about defense/offenses having an unfair advantage. This is 100% because Saban whined. College football is a joke now. If Bama can't win they'll just go on ESPN and beg for a redo. Lose again? frick it we'll just change the rules!!! fricking JOKE.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:51 pm to beaver
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has anyone mentioned that there is no way in hell this passes?
It was a recommendation from the rules committee in regards to the question of safety. It will more than likely pass.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:51 pm to RollTide1987
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Yeah, you missed my point completely. Chess is slow, deliberate, and involves skill and savvy. That's how football was for me when I was growing up and that's what drew me in. The HUNH takes skill and savvy out of the equation. If you can catch the defense out of position on every play because you're going 17,000 MPH there is no skill or strategy required.
You're allowed 60 seconds per move in chess. You've always been allowed the duration of a play to think in football. It is faster paced, but always has been.
HUNH is like playing chess against someone who plays quickly. They make their move in 5-10 seconds, so you only have a maximum of 65-70 seconds between your moves. If 2 deliberate chess players play together then you're likely to have 100 seconds between your moves. That's about the same percentage of time change between a HUNH or a more traditional, slower paced offense.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:51 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Think about how dumb you just sounded with the whole Gus is in your head hoersrshyt.
28-27 34-28 with luck and refs in one game, luck in both.
Bama 42-14 with both scores for Aubarn not produced by the offense.
You high school coach has nothing now and you are stuck with a 4 million dollar contract.
28-27 34-28 with luck and refs in one game, luck in both.
Bama 42-14 with both scores for Aubarn not produced by the offense.
You high school coach has nothing now and you are stuck with a 4 million dollar contract.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:51 pm to JJ27
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JJ27
The butthurt is strong with this one.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:52 pm to undecided
Very few HUNH offenses actually get plays off in less than 11 seconds. This won't have much of an effect
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:53 pm to DoreonthePlains
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True, but if he wants to bring in the chess analogy then its fair game. It's not as if someone is using a loophole. HUNH just changes the way you as a DC have to prepare and how you must think about the game being played.
And defense can already substitute and substitute quickly if they really must. During the UT vs. UGA game we sent in our Smurf package (smaller faster defensive lineman) it freaked out the refs a little bit who made sure that UGA, which was on offense, had a chance to substitute if they wanted to.
The only team who runs such a fast offense where defense doesn't have time to sub play, after play, after play is Oregon and Oregon is enabled by the fact that PAC's ref's set the ball faster than other conferences. The SEC sets the ball slowest out of all conferences - doesn't matter if they're ref'ing an SEC game or a bowl game (same is true of PAC refs setting it fast whether it's conference or bowls).
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:53 pm to RollTide1987
The delusion is strong with you and the rest of your buttfricking brethren. Your God struggles with HUNH and all of a sudden they want to change the rules.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:53 pm to beaver
quote:I wouldn't bet the ranch on it. I'm sure there's a bookmark on this post somewhere.
has anyone mentioned that there is no way in hell this passes?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:53 pm to RollTide1987
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It was a recommendation from the rules committee in regards to the question of safety. It will more than likely pass.
and there is zero science to back it up
the backlash from programs will be intense...most schools, not just HUNHs
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:53 pm to Crowknowsbest
Except that defenses are now allowed to send in players even if the offense doesn't. Does that not sound fair?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:54 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:Auburn does the exact thing Oregon does, only we look to the sideline when the offensive players see a certain alignment or set of alignments that doesn't favor what we want to do (of if the coaches see the same). We ran the same play over, and over, and over, and over again last year if it was successful and the defense showed no sign of stopping it. Auburn did that against everybody, and nobody could stop it.
Oregon is one of the only teams that runs a pure HUNH when they get going. They are sprinting to the line and snapping the ball when their players get set. Other teams do it to strictly keep the defense from subbing. They're just running up to the line and then taking another 10-15 seconds to call the play and snap the ball. That is chicken shite.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:55 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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28-27 34-28 with luck and refs in one game, luck in both.
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