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re: NCAA Can't Legally Punish Schools For NIL Deals During Recruiting Process

Posted on 2/9/24 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8092 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 1:22 pm to
You should have used a picture of an actual Tennessee fan for your meme. So many to choose from.










Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9960 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 1:55 pm to
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The collective is owned and operated, at least in part, by a group of UT boosters.


Even if it weren't the collective itself is considered a booster under NCAA guidelines:

Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 3:26 pm to
Anything the NCAA does which inhibits a player from getting paid runs afoul of the Sherman Act.

Poor kids.

You've got four more days before you all start using one of your other alters
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
3191 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 3:33 pm to
Once Tennessee football is gone. You can use all your free time and ride over the mountain and play the slots at the casino. Since you Vols love gambling so much.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16176 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

yeah you finally figured it out.

Congrats!


Too bad you didn't.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16176 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

This may be the final nail in Tennessee’s coffin.


We all hope it is. UT is the shits, and their fans are generally scum.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119186 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:08 pm to
Keep cheating. Never change
Posted by Clawfense
Member since Oct 2019
20 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:59 pm to
I’m looking and I can’t find what the exact rule was on booster/NIL activities were….and this is important…at the time the trip happened. The NIL guidance from the NCAA has been a constantly changing mish-mash of unclear rules, guidance, and policies. Charlie Baker even said as such not even 3-months ago admitting there are no rules and was calling for national regulation. At the end of the day, any control the NCAA wants to put on it is in violation of the Sherman act.

As far as the lawsuit, it doesn’t look good for the NCAA. Their batting average in court is abysmal, and I doubt the AG of two states would sign on to a lawsuit that was a loser. Maybe I’m wrong, who knows.

We’ll see what happens, but I’m betting the NCAA loses this.
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:07 pm to
NCAA is gonna bend over and that judge is gonna ram it home.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8092 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:08 pm to
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I’m looking and I can’t find what the exact rule was on booster/NIL activities were


Here you go, straight from the NCAA.

Boosters can not recruit.

Booster Compliance
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:09 pm to
You can quote all the illegal NCAA bs you want

Anything the NCAA does which inhibits a player from getting paid runs afoul of the Sherman Act.

You're about to find out the difference between a rule and a law.

Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8092 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:11 pm to
Can you explain the Sherman Act to us all since you have such a firm grasp of it?
Posted by Clawfense
Member since Oct 2019
20 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:13 pm to
Looks like the guidance on reclassifying what a booster is to include collectives and corporations was instituted in May 2022 by the NCAA.

For whatever it’s worth, the Nico trip, arranged by Spyer, happened in March 2022.

How can the NCAA punish a school for breaking a rule that didn’t exist? And do we all believe UT was the only school doing this prior to May 2022?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8092 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:19 pm to
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Looks like the guidance on reclassifying what a booster is to include collectives and corporations was instituted in May 2022 by the NCAA.


Doesn’t matter. A corporation nor a collective can pick up the phone and call someone. Neither can they type an email. An actual person has to do that. In the case of Nico, the person that contacted him was a Tennessee booster. The person that arranged the travel was a Tennessee booster. The same person that bragged about using NIL funds to recruit. This is a booster issue, not a NIL issue.

Posted by Clawfense
Member since Oct 2019
20 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:19 pm to
Again, in terms of the booster definition, spyer or whatever it is didn’t fit in that definition. It could be run by boosters, it could be funded by boosters, it could be owned by boosters, but the collective itself is an independent entity. As long as they are not promising pay for play at a specific school they were free to fly whoever they wanted for whatever reason.

That changed in May 2022, with more rules on collectives as boosters, but the trip in question happened in March when there was no rule against it.

Are we all in agreement with the NCAA applying rules retroactively?
Posted by Clawfense
Member since Oct 2019
20 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:22 pm to
I guess we’ll see the outcome of the court ruling on this. This feels like selective enforcement. You can’t tell me UT is the only school with a collective made up of “boosters” doing this prior to May 2022.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8092 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:22 pm to
No, we don’t all agree.

And you misspelled Spyre. Watch out, Smokey will get all over your arse and make 37 memes.
Posted by MondayNightPavs
Jax, FL
Member since Aug 2022
207 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

Yep. A lot of the smaller schools may mothball their football programs. But the big schools won't. The mighty dollar will keep them in the game.


quote:

There ya go, look at the bright side!


I don’t really see this as a bright side but to each their own I guess. My concern is that what you like about Tennessee football and what I like about Carolina will be so altered that we lose interest which is just unfortunate.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:01 pm to
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I don’t really see this as a bright side


I'd love for the NFL to make a farm league. All those wanting an instant payoff would go play there, and we could go back to watching actual student athletes playing the game we love.

NIL would disappear, as if someone was actually worth a lot of money he'd go to the farm league.

It's a win-win.
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:06 pm to
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Keep cheating.


No one needs to cheat to beat KY over and over, year after year, almost non stop for 30 years.

Well, at least you have basketball!

Oh wait...

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