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re: NC State decisions and consequences
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:51 pm to TeeteringBrink
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:51 pm to TeeteringBrink
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Wrong
You tell me I’m wrong then admit in the next sentence that it hasn’t yet been approved by the FDA. You may want to brush up on your debating skills.
There’s a reason why it hasn’t gotten final approval — because they’re still testing it. In fact, this was recently released by the FDA:
The FDA announced revisions to the patient and provider fact sheets for the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines regarding the suggested increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the tissue surrounding the heart) following vaccination.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:51 pm to Tigerman97
CwS protocol stated vaccinated players would not be tested unless an unvaccinated member of the team (player or staff) tests positive, then all players could be tested, vaccinated or not. With the Vandy campus requiring all faculty, students, and staff to be vaccinated by Aug 25th it's assumed the baseball team went ahead and got theirs. University policy, not a baseball policy
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:52 pm to Scot 20
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I think Corbin basked for the testing during warmups. If true, Corbin is a bitch.
You think so, therefore it must be true. Zero evidence this is the case. Keep making stuff up
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:54 pm to Ptins944
University of Texas, Texas aTm, all hat and no cattle. Posers
Posted on 6/26/21 at 12:57 pm to reVealed
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CwS protocol stated vaccinated players would not be tested unless an unvaccinated member of the team (player or staff) tests positive, then all players could be tested, vaccinated or not. With the Vandy campus requiring all faculty, students, and staff to be vaccinated by Aug 25th it's assumed the baseball team went ahead and got theirs. University policy, not a baseball policy
#TheMoreYouKnow
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:01 pm to TeeteringBrink
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I can’t believe we have people who think this way — forcing people to take a vaccination is wrong,
Do you think it’s wrong for a coach to require his players to abide curfew? Or what they eat at the training table? Or weight room regimens? Or staying off drugs and steroids? Those are all “personal preferences” that a player can accept or reject, but not without consequences.
Getting vaccinated against a raging pandemic —like those other things mentioned above— affects a player’s readiness to play, but also (unlike those other things) impacts teammates.
I agree. Teams have rules.
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Top Gun rules of engagement are written for your safety and for that of your team. They are not flexible, nor am I. Is that clear?
...my way or the highway...don't let the door hit you in the arse... you're under arrest...
Any of that ring a bell? Sorry, Karen.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:24 pm to reVealed
The bottom line is all remaining active players/tier 1 folks should be tested regardless of vaccination status……that would be fair.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:31 pm to JJ27
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The fact you see nothing wrong with this statement shows how far we’ve fallen as a nation.
Amen
Freaking promotion of Communism
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:34 pm to Tigerman97
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Seems like a coach would look at the protocol and force the entire team to get vaccinated.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:36 pm to Tigerman97
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Seems like a coach would look at the protocol and force the entire team to get vaccinated.
Out of curiosity, what is your position on the NCAA and the supreme court decision/paying players.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:41 pm to Tigerman97
quote:You would adore China.
Seems like a coach would look at the protocol and force the entire team to get vaccinated.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:46 pm to TeeteringBrink
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Dude, it hasn’t been approved by the FDA.
quote:So.... not wrong?
Wrong. It hasn’t gotten final, general approval
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:50 pm to reVealed
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All 64 participating schools were given the guidelines before the start of the tournament. Vandy played it safe, 63 teams gambled. Unfortunate for NC State and all college baseball fans but they were aware of the rules beforehand. Personally, I would prefer for the VandyBoys to lose a game played vs getting a forfeiture and auto advancement and every Vandy fan I know personally feels the same way.
Eh. While I don't disagree with the initial notion of what you're getting into. It seems the NCAA has moved the goalpost on their guidelines.
It also makes no sense to test vaccinated players if they're not symptomatic. I work in one of the more progressive school districts in the state and we weren't required to do that with our vaccinated athletes. Only unvaccinated had to be quarantined IF they had positive contact with a positive case.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:53 pm to Tigerman97
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Seems like a coach would look at the protocol and force the entire team to get vaccinated.
Once again dip shite
Their body, their choice
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:56 pm to TeeteringBrink
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Do you think it’s wrong for a coach to require his players to abide curfew? Or what they eat at the training table? Or weight room regimens? Or staying off drugs and steroids? Those are all “personal preferences” that a player can accept or reject, but not without consequences.
Getting vaccinated against a raging pandemic —like those other things mentioned above— affects a player’s readiness to play, but also (unlike those other things) impacts teammates.
You equate forcing someone to take an untested and unapproved vaccine that is known to cause heart problems to the same demographic of people that have almost no risk with the virus, to a curfew and not doing things that are illegal?
Are you fricking serious? This might be a good time to say something like "LOL Just trolling".
Funny enough, the Big10 wanted to shut down the entire football season last year over a smaller chance of a player getting myocarditis, and now you want to force these same kids to take a vaccine that puts them at an even higher risk.
Pretty much demonstrates why we need freedom of choice. Otherwise, you subject people to the ignorance of people like you.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:56 pm to BluegrassBelle
I agree with you but I also realize the NCAA is under scrutiny and being forced into protocols just like professional leagues. Chris Paul I think it was had to miss a playoff game due to "tracing". I think it's all stupid but it's the world we live in now, one in which a professional golfer is "so sick" that he's dominating a tournament but has to withdraw smh
Posted on 6/26/21 at 1:57 pm to Ptins944
I’m not in favor of forcing vaccines on people, but I do feel the players knew the rules and consequences beforehand.
If it were important enough an issue for them to stand up against, (being forced to be vaccinated), they could have taken action or at a minimum spoken out. Athletes did for BLM, nil or whatever other acronym matters to them, so apparently this wasn't that important.
If it were important enough an issue for them to stand up against, (being forced to be vaccinated), they could have taken action or at a minimum spoken out. Athletes did for BLM, nil or whatever other acronym matters to them, so apparently this wasn't that important.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:00 pm to hnds2th
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I’m not in favor of forcing vaccines on people, but I do feel the players knew the rules and consequences beforehand.
If it were important enough an issue for them to stand up against, (being forced to be vaccinated), they could have taken action or at a minimum spoken out. Athletes did for BLM, nil or whatever other acronym matters to them, so apparently this wasn't that important.
The consequences are only the product of bad rules.
Like saying a slave was always free to leave, the bullet in the back of their head was just the consequences.
Those aren't consequences, they are enforcement.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:00 pm to BlueDogTiger
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4 of 6 NC State positive test were from vaccinated players. Yet Vandy does not test because they are all vaccinated.
Also possible that the NCAA thinks that they might not have been honest about their vaccination reports.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 2:13 pm to 3down10
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bullet in the back of their head
A vaccine can be just a deadly for some people.
My point is, where are all the brave hearts, standing up to the ncaa overloads, for forcing them to have a medical procedure???
Why hasn’t a parent or parents sued the ncaa or school over the vaccine and/or consequences issue, before now?
All I see are lambs being led to slaughter.
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