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re: My Top ALL-TIME 5 SEC Teams
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:08 pm to artompkins
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:08 pm to artompkins
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I’m a bama fan but no one with a functioning brain is putting ole miss ahead of auburn. That’s the dumbest thing you could have possibly said.
Actually, the barner/Ole Miss debate doesn't change my All-Time Top 5 SEC teams either way. Now does it?
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:10 pm to SouthernInsanity
Who else can make an argument for #1 
Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:00 pm to bamameister
UT doesn’t have 6 NCs..
Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:00 pm to bamameister
So, how does Tennessee get credit for 6 titles and Georgia only three?
I mean, Georgia was consensus in 1942, but if you want to claim only three because we were only #1 by the AP three times, then Tennessee was only #1 by the AP twice.
If you want to go by claimed titles by the school...ok. But Georgia claims 4.
LSU claims 4 titles but was named #1 by the AP 3 times. Georgia has more wins, conference titles, etc. than LSU.
As was stated by WGDawg, LSU and Georgia could be interchangeable.
Tennessee, not so much.
I mean, Georgia was consensus in 1942, but if you want to claim only three because we were only #1 by the AP three times, then Tennessee was only #1 by the AP twice.
If you want to go by claimed titles by the school...ok. But Georgia claims 4.
LSU claims 4 titles but was named #1 by the AP 3 times. Georgia has more wins, conference titles, etc. than LSU.
As was stated by WGDawg, LSU and Georgia could be interchangeable.
Tennessee, not so much.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 4:05 pm to WG_Dawg
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There is hardly any objective ranking system that would not have UGA as the 2nd best all time program.
UGAPosted on 5/27/25 at 4:56 pm to bamameister
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Ole Miss Rebels
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National championships: 3
Wut?
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Tennessee Volunteers
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National championships: 6
Even worse
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:33 pm to thatguy45
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Mine
1. Kentucky
2-5 meaningless
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:35 pm to VFL67
Do other teams claim national championships where they lost the final game or is it only Tennessee?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:13 pm to Chad4Bama
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The only ones that really "count" after 1936
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The rest of Bama's NCs are rock solid...including the pre-'36 ones.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:09 am to bamameister
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Tennessee Volunteers
National championships: 6
Dafuq
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:03 am to cajunbama
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Louisiana State has fewer wins and more losses versus the Big 6 than any other Big 6 team. They are 6th for that reason.
List is shite.
YOU ARE one..............
Posted on 5/28/25 at 5:51 am to WG_Dawg
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This is wrong.
There is hardly any objective ranking system that would not have UGA as the 2nd best all time program. If you really wanted to get into the weeds you could make a case for LSU, but at worst it'd be an LSU/UGA tossup. Tenn, who for decades was an ironclad #2, is now #4 at best.
Weird that he accepts some of those weird UT national title claims but doesn't give us credit for 1942. Is Bamameister an old alt Serraneaux pulls up when he needs it?
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 5:52 am
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:51 am to AgentMuschamp
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Do other teams claim national championships where they lost the final game or is it only Tennessee?
This is where we are supposed to find "beauty" in the Beauty Pageant era of college football. Mythological meant that for over a hundred years, we speculated with a measuring stick that was anything but "beautiful" for all.
Under Knute Rockne, Notre Dame made it a point of excluding bowl games for 45 years. Since National Championships were awarded BEFORE bowl games, to Notre Dame, they felt they were playing a "glorified exhibition" game. That didn't stop voters from rewarding their efforts, however little they were. It wasn't until 1970 that Notre Dame decided to rejoin the rest of college football during bowl season.
In the meantime, revisionists in the SEC try to make a case study out of who was most deserving back in the day. They speak about who lost a bowl game and why some still cherish their UPI championships that were being given out before bowl games in the 70s.
It's so hypocritical to NOW go back and try to diminish championships, when this was college football in real time and through the 20th century. I guarantee you Notre Dame isn't returning their hardware anytime soon.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:21 am to SouthernInsanity
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Imagine that.... a bama fan starts a thread about HIS list of all-time SEC teams and he has bama at #1.
i'd love to hear any argument that they are not the #1 SEC of all time. They have double the SEC titles of anyone
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:37 am to bamameister
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Tennessee is just too strong historically to be bested by Georgia. You do enter ahead of Florida, though. Just because you mattered before 1990.
Tennessee has 1 national title in the modern era. The question is do you put extra weight on success from 50 + years ago. Bc if the success is weighted than perhaps you have an argument - but if you treat it as equal to recent success or even less than bc the era was far less competitive - it’s not even debatable. Tennessee is not #2.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:59 am to bamameister
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It's so hypocritical to NOW go back and try to diminish championships, when this was college football in real time and through the 20th century. I guarantee you Notre Dame isn't returning their hardware anytime soon.
And…. It’s even more hypocritical that teams retroactively claimed national championships for seasons played 20-30 years prior to the claims. None of those championships were in “real time”.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:03 am to FireDanMullen
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Tennessee has 1 national title in the modern era. The question is do you put extra weight on success from 50 + years ago. Bc if the success is weighted than perhaps you have an argument - but if you treat it as equal to recent success or even less than bc the era was far less competitive - it’s not even debatable. Tennessee is not #2.
Easy answer. All NCs count the same. You didn't invent football, and the blood, sweat, and tears players, coaches, and fans shed for their team were no different from today's investment. I would argue that practices of yesteryear were much more a near-death experience than this new age scientific approach. Many football coaches thought a drop of water during practice was a sign of weakness. Coaches could work their players to death, in pads and spring ball could go on forever.
By those measurements, and many more, that chunk of hardware may mean a lot more to a lot of people. And more richly deserved.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:17 am to bamameister
You are so dumb.
Im going to let you and Princeton fight over who has the best program now and Ill sit back and watch. They claim 28 NCs.
Im going to let you and Princeton fight over who has the best program now and Ill sit back and watch. They claim 28 NCs.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:25 am to jangalang
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You are so dumb.
Im going to let you and Princeton fight over who has the best program now and Ill sit back and watch. They claim 28 NCs.
And you obviously have the football acumen of a 5-minute egg. Why not take some time out of your busy schedule to learn your sport.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:39 am to bamameister
You're the one who said NCs should be weighed equally.
Take your medicine and start clawing for scraps from Princeton
Take your medicine and start clawing for scraps from Princeton
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