re: My Predictions - National Seeds + Regional Hosts

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Thanks BigBro. So using that logic which I agree with and tried to explain would it be fair to assume that since there are six SEC teams with legitimate claims for a top eight that conference record might be a looked at a little closer than say in the Big10?

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They should look at it.. but i honestly don’t know how they make decisions.

One thing that does work against LSU in that scenario is your record against those five other teams.

8-4 Arkansas
8-4 Texas
4-5 Vanderbilt
5-7 Georgia
5-7 Auburn
3-6 LSU

At the end of the day it’s hard to compare teams like that because of all of the metrics go in different directions, but that is why I like to use the formula I used in the original post.

If for some reason, LSU does not get a national seed, all of the polls will be useless going forward.

We seem to think pretty similarly. This…

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I believe that Auburn fans should go down the Oregon State and coastal Carolina rabbit holes to see how they measure against them..

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Is exactly what I said last week to these guys, for the exact reasons you pointed out. They just can’t get past “RPI”. And for good reason. It’s a strong metric that supports their case. It’s just not the only thing that goes into this like they want to believe.

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f for some reason, LSU does not get a national seed, all of the polls will be useless going forward.

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Said that last week too

So now we are getting down to the root cause. Your comprehension skills.

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It’s not a “stone cold fact” that it’s weighted the heaviest. Is it a factor? Absolutely, but It isn’t cut and dry like you and your buddies are trying to make it out to be. I understand why you want it to be, it’s just not the case.

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Yea, I obviously tried to completely negate it

And here I am obviously stating auburn shouldn’t be top 8…

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Disclaimer: If you think my position is that auburn won’t get or doesn’t deserve a top 8, that has never been the case

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Wish I could feel that comfortable blatantly lying.

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Second, LSU finished two games, ahead of them in the conference, despite getting swept at Auburn. That tells me that LSU performed better than Auburn outside of their series together.

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That tells me that LSU played series against Missouri, Texas A&M, while Auburn did not.

In the regular season, Auburn and LSU had 5 common opponents. We both had 4 series wins and 1 series loss, and they all came against the same teams (both won series against Alabama, Tennessee, MSU, and SC… both lost to Texas). LSU had a 1 game better record, 10-5 compared to 9-6 for Auburn.

But does that 1-game make up for getting swept against Auburn?

Against common opponents + each other in the regular season, Auburn was 12-6 to LSU’s 10-8.

So the only difference in the SEC record was the other opponents.

Auburn’s other SEC opponents were a combined 66-54 in conference play. LSU’s other SEC opponents were 48-72. If you think that’s not worth 2 extra games, you can’t be helped. Not to mention Auburn played Oregon State and 2 games against Georgia Tech. LSU’s OOC schedule was complete garbage.

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It is also perceived by the people that vote in the polls that LSU is better than Auburn. In fact, LSU is number one in all of the polls, or at least they were last week.

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This is so stupid. On Monday, the same day D1baseball released their final regular season Top 25 with LSU ranked #1, they released NCAA Tournament projections with LSU as the projected #7 national seed and Auburn the #6 national seed. So why did the folks at D1 baseball rank a team they think is the best as the #7 national seed going into the week? I’ll let your brain churn on that.

But maybe you shouldn’t put so much stock in the human polls if the same folks creating those human polls know their #1 pick has no shot at the #1 national seed due to a relatively week resume.

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And last LSU is a blue blood with a huge following and a great baseball stadium. They probably would prefer a super regional is at LSU instead of Auburn. Right or wrong it matters.

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Ahh. So here we are. I can’t disagree with you on this, though it doesn’t make it right. In the end, as long as Auburn’s a national seed, it doesn’t really matter if it’s 1, 8, or anywhere in between. But all you people trying to pretend that you all closely study the metrics and know more than anyone else look ridiculous… trying to pretend RPI is irrelevant but the computer nerd at Perfect Game is a savant literally does you no favors. If you stare down the 2 resumes Auburn is without a doubt a notch above LSU. There really is no denying it.

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One thing that does work against LSU in that scenario is your record against those five other teams. 8-4 Arkansas 8-4 Texas 4-5 Vanderbilt 5-7 Georgia 5-7 Auburn 3-6 LSU

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Meh….cant use this for anything bc the home field advantage is real.

Out of the 12 games Auburn played against these top teams 6 of them were at home and all 5 of their wins came at home. They lost every single other game on the road in this scenario (being swept twice)

Georgia is the same. All 5 wins at home and swept on the road.

All 8 of Texas wins came at home and they got swept on the road and lost one at home.

Vandy actually had 6 of their 9 at home and only won 4 (3 out of the 4 wins were at home.)

LSU only had 3 home games (won 2 and a road game)

Arkansas is the outlier. They actually played 9 out of the 12 on the road and won 5 (swept Vandy in Nashville, and won one each at Georgia and LSU)

So against the top 6 Georgia, Auburn, and Texas failed to win at least 1 road game but also enjoyed more home field advantage than LSU against the top 6. Not sure how that helps those teams.

But yet, yall are 0-1 against A&M! The Irony!

Sure buddy! I’m bookmarking this post and will come back to it later today. Baseball is a completely different sport. You’ll find out soon enough. Those 19 SEC wins vs y’all’s 17 will play a BIG factor. As well as us having a better overall record. We also check all the committees boxes as far as stadium capacity, average attendance, and just plain eyeballs on our games. That’s the category y’all can’t even begin to compete with us in. After all, the NCAA likes making money.

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Right because “it’s not” is something you can just hand wave

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Again with your lack of reading comprehension.

You said it’s the most heavily weighed metric. I said “it’s not”, meaning it’s not the most heavily weighted and then I explained how it’s valued differently across the country.

Jesus, you are dense.