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re: Muschamp = Ron Zook, Jr. ???
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:02 am to LSURussian
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:02 am to LSURussian
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but I believe the talent is there......
Trade us some players then if you like them so much. Just agree to have to play them as much as we have to at this point.
Seriously, I think you are just trolling now. I'm done.
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But my perception is he still complained to the refs quite a bit during that game. I admit I didn't watch the entire game but I do remember at least one tirade that I saw him make.
Then you saw what you wanted to see. He was much more calm even in the face of a dreadful offensive outing and Rainey fumbling all over the place. He was pissed about one PI call that went uncalled when clearly it happened. Way too many refs live in GA and AL.
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Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:04 am to roadGator
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roadGator
Is there a typo under your name? shouldn't it be Charlie IS fat-BOOM hates Refs. Just askin
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:05 am to KajunGator
Yes. Fixed.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:06 am to roadGator
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:07 am to KajunGator
quote:How can you claim that a coach does not know the talent he has and thus tries to adapt his scheme to the talent rather than lose games by ignoring and not utilizing the talent he has?
How can you claim to understand Football but you don't understand this?
You are also completely ignoring the defensive side of the team.
Hiring Charlie Weiss as OC shows poor judgement on Muschamp's part, IMO.
Also, 'football' is not a proper noun so it does not require capitalization, unless you're an Alabama graduate.......
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:12 am to LSURussian
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Charlie Weiss
has one S unless you are a LSU alum.
If you are going to go after someone for grammar then be perfect with your spelling.
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How can you claim that a coach does not know the talent he has and thus tries to adapt his scheme to the talent rather than lose games by ignoring and not utilizing the talent he has?
They are going to run the pro-style. They have adapted every week trying to make something work. You want us to run the spread again? I don't. They tried five wide in the UG game trying to adapt to what we have and a severely limited Brantley. It still wasn't enough.
Look, it's clear you don't care for Boom and you think Charlie is terrible. You may end up being right. I'm glad your position is so obvious that you choose to ignore most everything pertinent to the situation.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:14 am to roadGator
quote:I did answer your question. Now answer mine: was Meyer an excellent or lousy recruiter? My answer to that question is he was a damn strong recruiter who consistently signed whoever he really wanted.
Why not answer the question?
Do you disagree with that?
quote:I personally believe many of Florida's players have sort of quit on Muschamp. He has coached them down. They appear to be going through the motions. The talent is there, but their heart is not in the game after the October collapse.
Which of our units would you trade for?
That is squarely on the head coach's shoulders, IMO.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:19 am to roadGator
quote:Seriously? I'd take Demps and Rainey in a heartbeat. Both of them are electric players who are a threat to score every time they get their hands on the ball. Both are scary fast....
Trade us some players then if you like them so much.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:21 am to LSURussian
You didn't answer the question. You didn't say who you would trade us for.
Meyer didn't get a great power RB during his tenure. He got one good TE. He got one great DE. He got Tebow and he got Percy. He crashed and burned at DT. He wanted speed and got it in a lot of cases.
Boom wants to run the pro-style and you need power not so much speed. The OL has sucked for two years. Is that coaching or recruiting?
You don't like Boom. That's fine. But if you can't see that we don't have the players for his system and Charlie's system then you are indeed blind. You don't want more than one or two of our starters. That's a fact. That's on both sides of the ball too.
Meyer didn't get a great power RB during his tenure. He got one good TE. He got one great DE. He got Tebow and he got Percy. He crashed and burned at DT. He wanted speed and got it in a lot of cases.
Boom wants to run the pro-style and you need power not so much speed. The OL has sucked for two years. Is that coaching or recruiting?
You don't like Boom. That's fine. But if you can't see that we don't have the players for his system and Charlie's system then you are indeed blind. You don't want more than one or two of our starters. That's a fact. That's on both sides of the ball too.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:22 am to LSURussian
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I'd take Demps and Rainey in a heartbeat.
Make then starters and take them in their injured states too???
You are not being truthful if you say yes.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:24 am to LSURussian
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It's my perception that Florida was ranked in the top 10 in recruiting every year during the last 3 or 4 years of Meyer's reign.
True- but do these players fit into a new system being implemented by a new coach. You think LSUs defense- with all that talent- would fit into Sabans scheme? what was Nick Sabans first year record at LSU and Alabama?
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:24 am to roadGator
quote:Name one point I have ignored in this thread.
I'm glad your position is so obvious that you choose to ignore most everything pertinent to the situation.
Don't say I've ignored Muschamp's desire to change the offensive scheme. I've addressed that.
I happen to believe a good head coach knows his talent and adapts to the talent and does not try to force the talent to adapt to his scheme. A good EXPERIENCED head coach would ease the team into his system and not sacrifice the season by forcing something that is not there.
Blame Fat Charlie if you want to, but it comes back to resting on the head coach's shoulders.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:25 am to roadGator
quote:I assumed he had gained so much weight that he had to add another S to his name......
Charlie Weiss
has one S
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:26 am to LSURussian
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You are also completely ignoring the defensive side of the team.
The only teams we had Defensive meltdowns vs. were Bama and LSU. They happen to be #1 and #2 in the country.
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Hiring Charlie Weiss as OC shows poor judgement on Muschamp's part, IMO.
You are allowed to have your oppinion, I'm allowed to disagree. Charlie Weis (only one "s") is a good OC.
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How can you claim that a coach does not know the talent he has and thus tries to adapt his scheme to the talent rather than lose games by ignoring and not utilizing the talent he has?
What? You can't be this stupid. If Coach Muschamp's goal is turn Florida into a Pro Style team, why would he abandon the transition? It would be like stopping halfway through getting a tattoo because it hurts too much. It's going to have to be finished, keep pushing forward to the goal.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:29 am to roadGator
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You didn't answer the question. You didn't say who you would trade us for.
quote:That's more of an indication that LSU is loaded with talent than it is that Florida has no talent. IMO, most of Florida's #2's would be starters at Miss. St, Vandy, Ole Miss and possibly Georgia.
You don't want more than one or two of our starters.
Regarding your comments about Meyer not recruiting well, I recall the Recruiting Board being littered with Florida posters who bragged on Meyer's recruiting classes every year. What happened to that talent?
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:32 am to LSURussian
I think we need to give him another 2-4 years before considering him a failure.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:34 am to mikeytig
quote:Both of those programs were coming off losing seasons and numerous "down years" when Saban took over.
what was Nick Sabans first year record at LSU and Alabama?
Meyer went out three seasons removed from a BCS national championship and without a losing season during his tenure. Not comparable.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:35 am to roadGator
quote:Didn't both of them play against Georgia?
take them in their injured states too???
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:35 am to LSURussian
Preach on brother. You speak the truth you want to believe. This is a giant waste of time.
Boom sucks. Charlie sucks. We have great power backs for the pro-set. We have awesome TEs for the pro-set. Brantley will be a star in the NFL. Our OL is straight beast.
There's no reason we should not have beaten Bama, LSU, Bama, or Auburn. Boom missed this great opportunity to win another crystal ball. He's just flat our terrible. With the talent we have we should have just played in the NFL this year.
Boom sucks. Charlie sucks. We have great power backs for the pro-set. We have awesome TEs for the pro-set. Brantley will be a star in the NFL. Our OL is straight beast.
There's no reason we should not have beaten Bama, LSU, Bama, or Auburn. Boom missed this great opportunity to win another crystal ball. He's just flat our terrible. With the talent we have we should have just played in the NFL this year.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 9:37 am to KajunGator
quote:Answer: So his team would not be 4-4 going into November?
If Coach Muschamp's goal is turn Florida into a Pro Style team, why would he abandon the transition?
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