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re: MSU is 14-14-1 with Southern Miss

Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:19 pm to
15-14-1

Congrats on getting that lead
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4295 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:22 pm to
Except that State did not cheat. The NCAA made us forfeit 19 victories and 2 ties from 1975-1977 because a football player got a discount a clothing store that was available to all students. Coach Bob Tyler filed a suit to fight the NCAA and incredibly the court ruled for the NCAA in 1978 completely after this happened. It was a complete farce.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18246 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:32 pm to
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MISS STATE is actually 17-12 vs USM


Sounds like some games maybe had a nice little vacation
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18246 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:33 pm to
BTW Southern Miss ain't no joke. They live to frick up people's year. Don't ask me how I know.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 12:41 pm
Posted by saltwaterdawg
Member since Nov 2016
870 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:43 pm to
Jeff Bower had them going. Some people with no football knowledge, saw a chance to “take the next step” and didn’t see Bower as the man capable of it. His is what happens when monied folks stick their noses in a sport they have no knowledge of.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:45 pm to
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you're 14-14-1 when you take State's cheating into account?



You have a losing record to Vandy you buttfrick. You need to sit this troll out son.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25215 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Forcing out Jeff Bower proved to be the mistake most thought it would be, USM thought they were too big time for him.



May God smite Arkansas with a coach like Jeff Bower and may we suffer this punishment for decades.

He was a lifer who didn't even look at other job openings, (as you said) posted 14 straight winning seasons, and was as dependable as the sun rising in the morning.

Bowl games 10 our of his last 11 seasons? There are programs that would not only kill for that they'd burn orphanages to the ground for that.

In part it is why State being willing to play Southern was so impressive. You weren't just farting around with some G5 team. Southern Miss was a scary team back in the day.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10900 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:24 pm to
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USM beat the Bear in his last game ever in Tuscaloosa at then Denny Stadium. It was either the Bear’s only loss in Tuscaloosa or his second. USM also took down Auburn, Georgia, LSU, Florida State, Illinois, Nebraska, NC State, Virginia, etc during their “glory years”


They also beat Gene Stallings in his first game as Bama head coach. That game was big for two reasons; it solidified the legend of Brett Favre and set the wheels in motion that would lead to LSU hiring Curly Hallman. Great article here:

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Shortly after he reached the emergency room, a groggy Favre was told by the attending physician that, with his injuries, football wasn't an option for the upcoming season. "Just watch me," he replied. The next morning, readers of the Clarion-Ledger opened up their newspapers to the frightening headline FAVRE HURT IN WRECK. Staff writer Robert Wilson, who learned of the accident two hours after it happened, filed a detailed piece, explaining that Southern Miss's star quarterback suffered a hematoma (a swelling caused by a collection of blood) on his liver. "He has a lot of soreness in his abdominal wall," Dr. Jare Barkley, the treating physician, said. "We hope his body can absorb it. He is in a lot of pain and under medication, but he is alert and in full possession of his faculties. He had a concussion briefly. He was like a prize fighter being knocked out. He doesn't remember the accident."


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On the morning of September 8, less than two months after he nearly perished, Brett Favre and the other members of the Southern Miss football team walked out onto the Astroturf surface of Birmingham's Legion Field, knowing little about their pending fates. On the other side of the 50-yard line, the Alabama Crimson Tide players stretched, jogged, played catch. Although it was the season opener, as well as the debut of Tide head coach Gene Stallings, the team appeared calm. This wasn't a matchup against Auburn, after all, or even Florida, Georgia, or Louisiana State. It was Southern Miss, and a game they scheduled for the win. Favre was emaciated and physically untested. He had missed his team's season opener a week earlier (an unimpressive 12-0 victory over Division II Delta State), and was still feeling the effects of the wreck, as well as an ensuing blood blockage that resulted in the extraction of 30 inches of his intestine. Now, a physical shell of his old self, how would he hold up against John Sullins and Eric Curry, two of America's elite pass rushers? Nobody was quite sure. "That was my first college game, and I was pretty terrified," said Darian Smith, a Golden Eagles offensive tackle. "You grow up watching Alabama, loving or hating Alabama. And now you're playing Alabama, at Alabama."


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On the first play, Favre dropped back and was drilled into the ground. When he failed to rise, Doc Harrington, the trainer, sprinted toward his side. "Oh, God, Brett, what's wrong?" he asked. Favre struggled for breath. "Doc," he gasped, "I got hit in the balls." "Oh, good," Harrington said. "Stay down." "No," he replied, "not good."


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Slowly, meticulously, the Golden Eagles drove down the field behind a series of runs and short passes. Favre's moment came five plays into the series, when he danced around the pocket, avoided a charging Sullins, ducked, pumped, and threw a laser to halfback Eddie Ray Jackson over the middle for 34 yards. Shortly thereafter Jim Taylor -- "a straight-on kicker with one of those clown shoes," said Daryl Daye -- booted a career-long 52-yard field goal, and Southern Miss somehow escaped with a 27–24 victory. "This isn't supposed to be happening!" Allison screamed to McHale in the coaches' box. "This is Alabama, Hoss! Alabama!" At midfield, Hallman and Stallings embraced. "Curley," Stallings said, "I just hope your quarterback is OK." Hallman laughed. "Coach," he replied, "my quarterback is fine."
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4295 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:26 pm to
Ten or so years ago, the USM folks got tired of just winning and forced Bower out. Larry Fedora rode the coat tails of Bowers recruiting for four years culminating in the 2011 season where the Eagles were one play away from playing in the Sugar Bowl. Fedora then jumped ship to UNC knowing that the program was about fall apart because he did not recruit very well.

Had they left Bower alone, he might still be coaching them today. The 0-12 in twenty twelve would have never happened and though they may have had a season or two where they struggled the overall program would have been much better over last 7 years.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25215 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Ten or so years ago, the USM folks got tired of just winning and forced Bower out. Larry Fedora rode the coat tails of Bowers recruiting for four years culminating in the 2011 season where the Eagles were one play away from playing in the Sugar Bowl. Fedora then jumped ship to UNC knowing that the program was about fall apart because he did not recruit very well.

Had they left Bower alone, he might still be coaching them today. The 0-12 in twenty twelve would have never happened and though they may have had a season or two where they struggled the overall program would have been much better over last 7 years.




Truer words were never spoken. When you have a proven coach and he is consistently good... think twice before you let him go. The grass isn't greener most of the time.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25215 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:37 pm to
That was a great article there.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:49 pm to
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You have a losing record to Vandy you buttfrick


We don't. Try checking your facts before you post
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27335 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:51 pm to
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on the field


I love it when the simple Bulldogs say this. State gets dinged for cheating, but that don’t confront them none.

Keep being you, State College.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15130 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:57 pm to
State QB John Bond was 4-0 vs LSU and 0-4 vs USM (1980-83)

USM in the 80s had some NFL talent
Posted by GreyReb
Member since Jun 2010
3901 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 2:12 pm to
Why would you play USM...It does you absolutely no good
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15130 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 2:21 pm to
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Why would you play USM...It does you absolutely no good


It's the same as OM playing Memphis except State gets a W
Posted by GreyReb
Member since Jun 2010
3901 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 2:26 pm to
I know there is no reason we play Memphis either. That series is over for a while I think
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
2886 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 2:28 pm to
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It's the same as OM playing Memphis except State gets a W


Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4468 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:21 pm to
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incredibly the court ruled for the NCAA in 1978 completely after this happened.


That would be the OM alum dominated Mississippi Supreme Court.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14114 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:27 pm to
USM had some hellacious talent back in the 80s.
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