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re: MS writer says four coaches were interviewed today in Atlanta

Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:47 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105488 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:47 am to
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Why not interview Paul Johnson if that's their angle? Not a troll BTW...the guys knows the option offense.


Because Paul Johnson refuses to recruit or give two shites about anything BUT his option offense, which is why he failed.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:49 am to
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Ask Georgia Tech how that turned out.

The first few years, they did very well with it, even backed into an ACC CG.

But once all the other teams started practicing for it and planning against it, they got shut down.

It would get shut down even quicker in the SEC defensive arena.

Just look at how a mediocre Georgia was able to shut that shite down 8/10 years.

I don't know what the answer is for MsSt, but the Triple Option is not it.

I hated that shyt with a passion, but the geek-nerd-loser segment of the GT Fanbase loved it because they liked the connection to the Service Academies and they loved being different for the sake of being different

They think that GT is forever tethered to recruiting the lesser Athlete, and this was GT's only way to compete
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44650 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:51 am to
Really need Tech to be competitive again. The vaccuum let lesser programs like UGA and Clemson to have success.
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:51 am to
God I hope Piss State goes to the triple option, cementing themselves as a bottom dweller.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 10:52 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28073 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:52 am to
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The Tripl-Oh already scares away talent, why would any AD want that for their FB Program in the SEC where Talent is the most important variable in helping your team win


Not once did I suggest a triple option is the offense you should use in the future.I just suggested you should interview CPJ IF
that's the direction your want to go in.

I honestly don't know what your fan base expects for the program or the politics but I would think you need to do something
unconventional to compete given the circumstances/realities of MSU.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:54 am to
The option absolutely can work with a good recruiter.

Why is it difficult to find a good recruiter for the option? Because the service academies run it and they are the highest level of coaches for that offense. Those arent the type of coaches who recruit football players against other schools.

Get a recruiter (not a numbnuts like johnson) and the offense/team can be successful.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105488 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:56 am to
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Get a recruiter (not a numbnuts like johnson) and the offense/team can be successful.


Exactly. People act like the offense at Tech is the reason PJ got fired. The reason is they had Ted Roof as DC and recruited defensive players at the same level as South Alabama or MTSU.

I'm not saying you should do it, but if a guy comes in and can put a semi competent defense on the field and recruit defensive players at a semi-decent level it could work.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:58 am to
Agreed.

But the best coach for the job would probably be "the best high school coach". You probably arent going to get a stud recruiter from the service academies.

The triple option is viable. But finding the coach is like snipe hunting.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105488 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 11:00 am to
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The triple option is viable. But finding the coach is like snipe hunting.


Yep - I'd be very curious to hear what Monken's pitch is. He's a very smart, analytics driven, ahead of the curve guy. I have to imagine he's had a plan to sell to P5 schools on why he can be successful there.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 11:17 am to
Who was that powerful AU alumnus that made Chizik hire that guy from Troy?
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6658 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:53 pm to
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Had to scroll down towards the bottom to see how the Texans 2006 offense did



It was actually the 2nd best of David Carrs 5 years as a starter. One of only 2 years he posted a passer rating over 80 instead of under 70
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:00 pm to
That’s um...underwhelming

Should just hire Bill Clark
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:10 pm to
Calhoun would be a homerun if he can recruit. Got to spend an afternoon talking southern football with him while we were filming a doc, he would love to coach sec level athletes at the college level. Don’t have any idea if he would leave the AFA.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32555 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:14 pm to
Sark!!!
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15021 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:46 pm to
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It was an idiotic decision to bring that garbage to GT, and if it didn't work in the Metro ATL with tons of Talent it won't work in some backwards shythole like Stark Vegas


Not really, it's the reason you went to the Orange Bowl, and partially the reason you won it.

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A small population State with less than stellar HS FB and definitely not enough Academically qualified Recruits to supply 2 P5 & 1 G5 within the State


HS football in MS is getting better because of better coaching. The material is there and always has been.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29552 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:52 pm to
No Gus? List is shite.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15021 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:53 pm to
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I honestly don't know what your fan base expects for the program or the politics but I would think you need to do something
unconventional to compete given the circumstances/realities of MSU.


All MSU has to do is stay on top of Ole Miss and Arkansas. State can beat A&M and Auburn 50 percent of the time with competent coaching.
Posted by I let the dogs out
Member since Sep 2017
2241 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 6:38 pm to
I like the idea of someone with experience in an option system coming in, so long as the coach is smart enough to adapt and be more versatile. The State brand is to play physical football, running and stopping the run. It’s the type of athlete we draw; it’s who we are.
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