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re: Moorhead's rebuild? Really?

Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:02 pm to
You have yet to address the truth.

You won't do it because it hurts your feels right now.


Either the facts in the OP are correct or they are not. Which is it?

If they are, what did you actually expect a defense to be with 2 returning starters?

Be serious. You act like you have LSU/Bama rosters.

YOU DIDN'T AND DON'T.

Posted by RB10
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:03 pm to
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He is right. The passing game from Dak, the #1 ranking year dropped UNDER MULLEN over 2000 yards.




Passing stats are the only thing that determines a decline now? How about the fact that the defense is steadily declining under Moorehead, as well as the offense?
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:05 pm to
What aggression? Nick ran the ball aggressively. to aggressively that's why he kept the ball instead of giving it to the RB. I saw a QB that made a bunch of bad reads.

The offense was about 80% the same playbook the first year. The number of run plays vs pass plays was actually heavier on the run side. I saw a bunch of individual mistakes by veteran players.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:09 pm to
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So you can’t tell that our complete disorganization on offense, which is the guru’s baby, isn’t just due to freshman?


I have already stated that. Are you reading?

You don't have WRS. You are forced to play a true freshman at QB in an RPO.

You realize that your top WR last year was a guy that only had 5 catches the year before right? a 3 star guy.

That the guy that has the MOST YARDS this year in receiving is a MOORHEAD recruit. Right?

That out of the 3 true Freshmen starting in the SEC, your's is performing with the best. Right? And the one guy that's barely beating him is a 5 star, TOP QB and has actual WRs worth a damn all around him.

Holy SHITE!





Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:11 pm to
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What aggression? Nick ran the ball aggressively. to aggressively that's why he kept the ball instead of giving it to the RB. I saw a QB that made a bunch of bad reads.

The offense was about 80% the same playbook the first year. The number of run plays vs pass plays was actually heavier on the run side. I saw a bunch of individual mistakes by veteran players.



None if this is really true. The offense lost aggression because there are too many reads in Moorhead's scheme. Receivers don't run downhill, they read the defense and run option routes. The QB has to make the same read and anticipate the correct route. Have you noticed that Tommy Stevens holds the ball too long at times, and makes a lot of pump fakes before he throws? It's because he's trying to read and anticipate the WR reads. And he actually knows the offense better than anyone. It's a clusterfrick.

Fitzgerald kept the ball too much because he was a lot more comfortable trying to run the ball than he was trying to sit back in the pocket and make those reads. Moorhead has acknowledged this. And it's all on him for making Fitzgerald run that kind of an offense.

And the mistakes you saw from veteran players were caused by confusion in the offense. They had to do too much thinking and reading. It's too complex.

And I'm not making this shite up. It's in every opponent's scouting report we face. It's why teams blitz the shite out of us and are physical with our WRs.

You should probably learn a little bit about this game.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:14 pm to
What you are really saying is we had a bunch of dumb football athletes and not football players with detailed focus on the game. The type of intricate detail and attention to the game it takes to win championships.

Gotcha.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:14 pm to
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state has good wide outs and no one to throw the rock to them.


Then why were they ranked 112th in the nation in passing?

Why was Fitz 50% and how is it that Stevens is 65%

2+2 should always equal 4.

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terrible defense.


Should be expected with 2 returning starers and no depth returning.

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the most experienced OL in the conference somehow got worse


LOL! nope.




Posted by BobLeeDagger
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:14 pm to
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What i've seen more than anything is a bunch of weakass fans. I don't blame the kids for not wanting to go to state because of shitbirds like you that don't believe in them from Day 1.



He hasn't given me a reason to believe in him. Not one. He didn't help himself coming in talking about ring sizes and then drastically under perform. So don't try to put this on fans.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:16 pm to
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What you are really saying is we had a bunch of dumb football athletes and not football players with detailed focus on the game. The type of intricate detail and attention to the game it takes to win championships.

Gotcha.


No, what I'm saying is that you're a mouth-breathing, window-licking, booger-eating retard. It's not even debatable at this point. You are proving it with every post you make in this thread.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53436 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:16 pm to
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You also keep using the academic fraud as an excuse, but are too retarded to know that the fraud happened under Moorhead's watch.


In his first year, and it was outside the system at MSU. That's on those players. No I don't blame the new coach for that. I blame grown arse men who cheated.

Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:17 pm to
ok boomer
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:17 pm to
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Inexperience and effort have no relationship.


Yes they do. You can go all out and think you are in the right position and be wrong due to lack of experience and people like you think they didn't even try.

Posted by BobLeeDagger
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:18 pm to
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You act like you have LSU/Bama rosters.




You keep talking about rosters and not results. Our defense last year was #1 in the country with a "less talented" roster. How do you only win 8 games with the #1 defense giving up only 12 TDs all year when you are heralded as a offensive guru. You aren't taking shite serious. You don't even watch the games, that's apparent.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Yes they do. You can go all out and think you are in the right position and be wrong due to lack of experience and people like you think they didn't even try.


Sure, except no one is going all out. The effort is a joke.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:19 pm to
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How do you only win 8 games with the #1 defense giving up only 12 TDs all year when you are heralded as a offensive guru. You aren't taking shite serious. You don't even watch the games, that's apparent.


With an H-Back playing QB
Posted by BobLeeDagger
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:20 pm to
Shouldn't be a problem for the offensive "guru"
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43790 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:22 pm to
I see neither you nor the other uninformed poster want to address this:

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Leading rusher is a Junior.
Top 4 WRs are a Junior and 3 Seniors.
Starting TE is a Senior.
The entire starting Oline is RS Juniors and Seniors.

The two DEs are Seniors.
One of the DTs is a Senior.
All 3 Starting LBs are Juniors and Seniors.
3 of the 4 base DBs are Juniors and Seniors, and the nickel back is a senior.


We can take it a step further:

20 of 22 players on the offensive 2-deep are juniors or seniors.

15 of 22 players on the defensive 2-deep are juniors or seniors.

Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:28 pm to
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With an H-Back playing QB



An H-back who won nine games the year before, including throwing the ball all over LSU in a 37-7 victory.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Leading rusher is a Junior.


That Moorhead groomed replacing a Sr last year. Credit .... Moorhead.

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Top 4 WRs are a Junior and 3 Seniors.


Guidry-- Moorhead recruit.

Mitchell had a toal of 5 catches prior to Moorhead. Moorhead made him in that system.

Zuber is a transfer pulled in by.... Moohead.


And only one of those is a 4 star.

Thanks for making my point.


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The entire starting Oline is RS Juniors and Seniors.



Does not equal good nor experience

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One of the DTs is a Senior.


Suspended... academic fraud.. now talk about all of the freshmen at the position.

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All 3 Starting LBs are Juniors and Seniors.


1 is suspended... for academic fraud.

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3 of the 4 base DBs are Juniors and Seniors, and the nickel back is a senior.


does not equal talent nor experience man. 2 are lost for the season.

2 cbs are true freshmen.

they returned 4 starters and 2 are suspended. It's that simple.


You are looking at it with out evaluating talent... through the eyes of your roster.


Posted by BobLeeDagger
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

MSU combined scores against Bama, LSU, Auburn:

130-43

Ole Miss combined scores against Bama, LSU, Auburn:

137-82


Ole Miss with a freshman QB. Ole Miss with equal or lesser talent.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 1:33 pm
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