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Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:40 am to jj06
Usually because of a certain segment of the population. You know, like people who need standards lowered for them to get “degrees” from special schools.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:41 am to ClassicCityAlum
Both, depends on where in the state your at.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 12:03 pm to viceman
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If the state didn't secede from the Union in the Civil war, then they are not Southern. That goes for Kentucky too. Doesn't mean they can't be in the SEC, but it means they aren't in what we call the "South". aka Dixieland.
Missouri furnished troops to both sides as did every state in the South except South Carolina. Numerous men from the northern states fought for the South.
Some of Missouri's most famous sons, the James boys, were definitely Southern. Harry Truman's family was Southern. His mother remembered that era of history and would not sleep in the Lincoln bedroom at the White House when she visited.
One of the most pro-Union parts of the South was East Tennessee.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:59 pm to bunkerhill
Missouri (1820-21) is an older state than Texas (1845).
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:02 pm to ClassicCityAlum
I think "southern" is subjective. LA/MS differ slightly from AL/GA/N FL. Mizzou has a strong Midwest feel to it.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:13 pm to bunkerhill
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One of the most pro-Union parts of the South was East Tennessee.
and Winston county, Alabama tried to secede from the state claiming "If a state has the right to secede from the Union, then a county has the right to secede from the state." That being said the state of Missouri did not secede during the civil war.
Edit: Further research I discovered I was both right and wrong about Missouri and secession.
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During the American Civil War, the secession of Missouri was controversial because of the disputed status of the state of Missouri. During the war, Missouri was claimed by both the Union and the Confederacy, had two competing state governments, and sent representatives to both the United States Congress and the Confederate Congress. This unusual situation, which also existed to some degree in the states of Kentucky and Virginia (with West Virginia), was the result of events in early 1861.
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In the town of Neosho, Missouri, Jackson called the state legislature into session. They enacted a secession ordinance, recognized by the Confederacy on October 30, 1861. So technically yes and no, the state governor and all the southern supporters did in fact secede and set up a government recognized by the south.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 3:46 pm
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