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re: Miles And Richt Sit On The SEC’s Hottest Seats

Posted on 6/23/09 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by ericberryistheman
Nashville, TN
Member since Feb 2009
869 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 8:14 pm to
Mike Hamilton is on the hottest seat.
Posted by ericberryistheman
Nashville, TN
Member since Feb 2009
869 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 8:16 pm to
I can't see Richt in trouble. Does his allegiance to his staff (Martinez) resemble the failure of Phat Phil to change? Ultimately, it was Phil's loyalty that probably cost him the job.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 8:17 pm to
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Mike Hamilton is on the hottest seat


That's because plungers have wooden handles and tend to catch fire with friction.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2108 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 8:37 pm to
i agree with you Berry. Loyalty to assts is a good quality unless taken too far. Im sure it contributed to C. Fulmer's ultimate demise, and could play a role if C. Richt starts to flounder. ultimately if those guys' values dictate loyalty over self preservation, it's hard to argue with such a lofty notion, though it drives us mon. am qbs crazy.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
Meine sich're Zuflucht
Member since Jun 2008
14488 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 8:44 pm to
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Im sure it contributed to C. Fulmer's ultimate demise


It absolutely did. Randy Sanders is a great example, and some would argue the same about John Chavis.
This post was edited on 6/23/09 at 8:45 pm
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2108 posts
Posted on 6/23/09 at 8:50 pm to
unfortunately, when you change assts willy-nilly, sometimes you get worse than you had. i'm sure Coaches Fulmer and Richt are well aware of that.

it would be fair to say Clawsen, though never given much of a shot, was worse than Sanders, and a similar case involving UT-UGA where Ramsey was a disaster who replaced a very competent Kines.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 6:34 am to
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unfortunately, when you change assts willy-nilly, sometimes you get worse than you had.


Same thing goes with head coaches - look at Fulmer vs. Kiffin. Wittingham vs. Weiss. Coker vs. Shannon.

Posted by TouchdownTN
Member since Jun 2009
2609 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 7:49 am to
We don't produce players, but Phil Fulmer, Mack Brown, and Steve Spurrier are all from Tennessee.
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
Somewhere in Avoyelles Parish
Member since Oct 2008
7311 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 8:07 am to
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Does his allegiance to his staff (Martinez) resemble the failure of Phat Phil to change?


Tennessee fans now referring to Fulmer in this way...priceless.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 8:54 am to
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No,Les will do fine. How come you Tennessee pussies produce so few instate players? Since the 50s,UT,has never had many instate players.Ya'll should be banned from talking football on message boards.


I swear, you never cease to amaze me with your blatant stupidity.

Do you realize Tennessee has the historical edge over every SEC program in terms of prestige outside of Alabama?
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 8:56 am to
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and some would argue the same about John Chavis.


LSU fans will crucify you for speaking badly about their new messiah.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 9:16 am to
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LSU fans will crucify you for speaking badly about their new messiah.


Meh, he just needs to be better than Malleveto!
Posted by Foul Canal
Member since Jun 2009
162 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 9:20 am to
Lots of Bama friends of mine couldnt understand why we hate(d) Saban for what he did. I cant wait till he leaves Bama to see their reactions.

Oh wait, you dont really think he'll stay at Bama long term do you? He's a 5 year max guy wherever he goes. Did it a Mich State, LSU, Dolphins, and Bama next. Each time he moved, he says "this is home" and catch phrases like that.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31647 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 9:22 am to
Ross,
Do you feel like Tuberville's loyalty to his asst's resulted in his demise?
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
Member since Nov 2006
55445 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 9:24 am to
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I can definately see more ADs on the hotseat than coaches - starting with Tennessee, Auburn, and Arkansas.


Why Arkansas? He just got here.
Posted by TouchdownTN
Member since Jun 2009
2609 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 9:32 am to
I don't know if Hamilton is really on the hot seat. Bruce Pearl was a great hire, and the administration loves him. Now, if Kiffin is fired in the next few years you can gaurantee Hammy's going to be kicked out with him. I'm not opposed to Fulmer becoming AD, if the position opens up some time soon.
This post was edited on 6/24/09 at 9:34 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 10:11 am to
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Ross,
Do you feel like Tuberville's loyalty to his asst's resulted in his demise?


It played an integral part in his demise, yes.
Posted by randyb
Los Angeles
Member since Nov 2003
1466 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 10:48 am to
The answer to a coach on the hot seat is in this thread

The answer lies with you!
This post was edited on 6/24/09 at 10:51 am
Posted by SNAKE
Lafayette/Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
705 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 12:44 pm to
I agree that it's Saban ! For the reasons you refered to as well as the following.

1) Saban has always pushed the limits of the spirit of rules regarding recruiting . The new limits on recruiting will not help.

2) Alabama has historically run a cheating program. The NCAA has said to Alabama.......
it will risk the death penalty or something really bad if this happens again.

Can Bamma or Saban live in this straight jacket ?
This post was edited on 6/24/09 at 12:47 pm
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12782 posts
Posted on 6/24/09 at 12:45 pm to
Miles job is safe for a while
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