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re: Mike Leach wants a big, expanded college football playoff...
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:00 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:00 pm to thunderbird1100
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64 would be hilarious
That last four in and last four out would make people lose their minds
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:03 pm to thunderbird1100
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Speak for yourself, I followed GaSo close when they were in FCS and the playoffs were fun AF.
Yes following an FCS title contender is probably more fun than following a middle of the pack Sun Belt school. But that’s not what this comparison is.
Expanding the playoff doesn’t all the sudden make a G5 team a title contender. It just makes them the equivalent of a Pat League team where they’re playing for the right to get embarrassed in the first round by LSU, Alabama, Ohio State, etc.
And as a smaller program, playing in a major bowl against a massive program is much more exciting than the small potatoes national championship. Everyone knows App State beat Michigan in ‘07. Does anyone know who App State played in the championship that same year?
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:14 pm to Hugh McElroy
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expanded college football playoff...
Keep looking, aggie...
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:18 pm to Jon Ham
quote:Not really considering the huge scheduling discrepancies across college football.
We already have a huge playoff, it’s the regular season.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:20 pm to PearlJam
Well if have 64 teams, we will need a play-in game.
We don't need more than 4.
LSU DESTROYED UGA in the SEC title game. Yet UGA would have been in the 8 team playoff.
We don't need more than 4.
LSU DESTROYED UGA in the SEC title game. Yet UGA would have been in the 8 team playoff.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:26 pm to Hugh McElroy
With 64 Aggie can finally make the play offs
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:29 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Hey, I get it. I'm just posting Leach's view here. He thinks you're a moron, cause, after all, every other football division (college and high school) does a big playoff. What's so hard about it. EVERYONE else does it that way.
(I'm just pointing out what Mike said here...)
Those levels don't play 12 regular seasons plus a conference championship game. Were FBS to do what FCS does, there would be the potential for an 18 game season. That's ridiculous. Huge tournaments are also not the best way to determine the best team, regardless of how many other leagues do it. The NFL probably does it the best with 12 teams making the postseason and 4 receiving first round byes. But the problem with FBS football (in comparison to the NFL) is there aren't 12 teams that could realistically win a championship. The NFL is far more balanced. In college, there are, at most, 6 teams each year that would have a reasonable shot at winning. All you're doing is adding multiple more blowout games and risking potential injury to players who aren't making any money.
Bottom line, there have been only a few semi-final games be remotely competitive in the 6 years we've had the playoffs, so there really isn't a great argument to add more teams except for purely financially based reasons which has nothing to do with the teams and players playing the games.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:31 pm to SG_Geaux
I simply responded to someone that indicated the regular season acted as a playoff for cfb. It's a foolish argument. I'm not saying we need a 64 team playoff.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:34 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Would we do away with conference championship games since they would be essentially meaningless? Would the regular season be shortened, meaning revenue loss for non playoff teams? The FCS schools play 11 to 12 regular season games with no conference championship games. Under the current setup an FCS school could end up playing between 16 and 18 games. That is a very long and demanding season for student athletes. Every additional game creates more risk of injury that may be of particular concern to pro prospects, not to mention additional wear and tear on the players generally. An expanded playoff has other problems. Fan fatigue, excessive cost of travel and tickets for fans, and already decreasing attendance is a problem. Early round playoff games between teams with no real chance of getting to the semi finals or finals will be of little real interest to casual fans because there will be a big gap between the top 3 to 6 teams and the rest of the field. Overall, I think the downsides outweigh the benefits.
The current FBS system has been pretty successful. I don’t see the need for a radical change.
The current FBS system has been pretty successful. I don’t see the need for a radical change.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:37 pm to PearlJam
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Not really considering the huge scheduling discrepancies across college football.
If your are a P5 team and win all your regular season games, you keep playing for the championship. If you lose a game you can’t complain.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:38 pm to Jon Ham
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If your are a P5 team and win all your regular season games, you keep playing for the championship. If you lose a game you can’t complain.
How many years have we had 4 undefeated teams in the playoff?
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:39 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Yes following an FCS title contender is probably more fun than following a middle of the pack Sun Belt school. But that’s not what this comparison is.
Having a fun game that matters is more fun than a game that really doesnt, I dont think that's arguable. Who cares if 16 seeded SB Champ GaSo gets beat 52-13 in round 1 of playoff by 1 seed whoever, at least it's a game that mattered. Would be awesome (As a fan) to see GaSo play a road playoff game round 1 at a Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, etc...
I can tell you there's pretty much nothing to get excited about like this year when 7-5 GaSo played 7-5 Liberty in the "Cure" Bowl in Orlando with about 15k people in attendance. I'm not saying either of those teams should be in the playoff, just saying in general
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Expanding the playoff doesn’t all the sudden make a G5 team a title contender.
That's not the point, the point is just to make the postseason more exciting and have more meaningful games. It also ends this dumb narrative about all these undefeated G5 never having a shot, they get one finally.
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And as a smaller program, playing in a major bowl against a massive program is much more exciting than the small potatoes national championship. Everyone knows App State beat Michigan in ‘07. Does anyone know who App State played in the championship that same year?
Imagine a 13 seeded App State upsetting a 4 seeded Michigan in round 1 of the playoffs at Michigan.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:40 pm to Jon Ham
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If your are a P5 team and win all your regular season games, you keep playing for the championship. If you lose a game you can’t complain.
There's literally been 0 seasons of all 4 playoff teams being undefeated
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:42 pm to Hugh McElroy
One thing people need to get past is this notion of "Best" Team.
There is literally no way to determine the "Best" Team.
All you can do is determine your Champion.
There is literally no way to determine the "Best" Team.
All you can do is determine your Champion.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:43 pm to krandor
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Still not enough to get MSU in.
Would have gotten us in back in 2014
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:47 pm to StopRobot
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How many years have we had 4 undefeated teams in the playoff?
What’s your point? I simply said if you’re a P5 team and win all your games you keep playing. What was wrong with my statement?
Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:10 pm to Hugh McElroy
6-8 would be the sweet spot
Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:24 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Leach wants 64
He's doing the math and figuring out what would be needed for MSU
Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:55 pm to Hugh McElroy
I did think an 8 team playoff was needed, but then Oklahoma...
Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:59 pm to Hugh McElroy
If you want more parity in the FBS, then you need a salary cap. Until then, the haves will have and the nots, not.
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