Started By
Message
re: Mike Gundy likely getting fired
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:32 pm to OliverQueen81
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:32 pm to OliverQueen81
I'd like to personally welcome him to the SEC. As the new coach of the University of South Carolina, effective immediately. Muschamp can stay on and coach the defense. Or he can kick fricking rocks and I'll be happy to help him pack his shite.
0
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:33 pm to djsdawg
Hey Djsdawg:
Stop and Frisk saved Black lives. See Heather Macdonald's analysis of that program.
I have civil liberty concerns about it, but the fact is that it did save Black lives.
LINK See below the video for a plethora of studies that debunk the vicious BLM lie. There are other sources like FBI Table 21. And others like this: LINK /
and LINK for the 85% figure.
quote:
re: Mike Gundy likely getting firedPosted on 6/15/20 at 10:30 pm to InGAButLoveBama
Ok, put the studies up so we can see them. How can we prove encounters are not increased due to skin color? Because the data from new york city in regards to stop and frisk policies looks pretty damn bad.
Stop and Frisk saved Black lives. See Heather Macdonald's analysis of that program.
I have civil liberty concerns about it, but the fact is that it did save Black lives.
LINK See below the video for a plethora of studies that debunk the vicious BLM lie. There are other sources like FBI Table 21. And others like this: LINK /
and LINK for the 85% figure.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:38 pm to InGAButLoveBama
The vast majority of people getting into confrontations that result in violence with the police is due to their non compliance and combativeness with the police to begin with. Cops aren't just shooting people for no reason dude...they know they are recorded and that they will be prosecuted and sent to prison for doing so. Sure there are a few instances of idiot officers likenthr George Floyd case, but those are few and very far between. So, with that said, u still honestly believe that stop and frisk would prevent the aggressive attitude that these people have towards cops? I don't think so. Comply with the police and you will be fine. It's as simple as that. Taking one or two cases like the George Floyd frickup by an idiot cop and making that some kind of bs example of widespread systemic mistreatment of blacks by the officers is just assinine.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:58 pm to InGAButLoveBama
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:14 pm to InGAButLoveBama
LINK /
Up to you to now put up or shut up. This study is a few years old too, odds are the last 4 weeks don’t help your argument.
Regardless, the argument of “more white people are shot than blacks” is fricking ridiculous. How about police “protect and serve” and not shoot people for non major offenses?
ETA: I’m out. Argue to the wind. I see your argument I just don’t agree with it. That’s fine, that’s America, which is also the irony of this whole debate since Gundy still hasn’t been fired.
Up to you to now put up or shut up. This study is a few years old too, odds are the last 4 weeks don’t help your argument.
Regardless, the argument of “more white people are shot than blacks” is fricking ridiculous. How about police “protect and serve” and not shoot people for non major offenses?
ETA: I’m out. Argue to the wind. I see your argument I just don’t agree with it. That’s fine, that’s America, which is also the irony of this whole debate since Gundy still hasn’t been fired.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:23 pm to djsdawg
Dude you should just quit while you're behind. You come across as an idiot after clear data is presented to you. I've been pulled over at least 7 times as well. Multiple times for no violations just because I had tinted windows or what time of the night it was. Am I black or white? Am I democrat or republican? It doesn't matter either way. We all have run-ins with the police for the most part it's how the civilian handles themselves as to how the "policing" goes.
I will say sure there are probably some bad cops. 5% or so. Do they go around just murdering people, nope. The Floyd case is the first case I've seen that appears to be outright murder. The weird thing is the cop and Floyd knew each other. Worked at the same club together.
I will say sure there are probably some bad cops. 5% or so. Do they go around just murdering people, nope. The Floyd case is the first case I've seen that appears to be outright murder. The weird thing is the cop and Floyd knew each other. Worked at the same club together.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:26 pm to LouisvilleKat
quote:
Who's stopping him from being as conservative as he wants to be?
The black players on his team! Why the players get to decide? Maybe there is more to the story but if Players are trying to say he is a racist then why not transfer out and go elsewhere?
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:35 pm to djsdawg
quote:
re: Mike Gundy likely getting firedPosted on 6/15/20 at 10:58 pm to InGAButLoveBama
Senator Tim Scott was pulled over 7 times. Wonder why?
LINK
I don't deny that Blacks have been profiled in the past, and sometimes still are, but that is due to observable behavior patterns. Why aren't young Asian men pulled over as much?
I am not sure I believe Tim Scott though. The guy is a neocon waterboy, so I am skeptical of his report of being pulled over 7 times. Did he mean without having done anything like speeding?
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:40 pm to DoubleDown
quote:
e: Mike Gundy likely getting firedPosted on 6/15/20 at 11:14 pm to InGAButLoveBama
LINK /
Up to you to now put up or shut up. This study is a few years old too, odds are the last 4 weeks don’t help your argument.
Regardless, the argument of “more white people are shot than blacks” is fricking ridiculous. How about police “protect and serve” and not shoot people for non major offenses?
ETA: I’m out. Argue to the wind. I see your argument I just don’t agree with it. That’s fine, that’s America, which is also the irony of this whole debate since Gundy still hasn’t been fired.
These two studies do NOT control for police encounters or crime rates, so they just aren't useful. Sure, even thoug the numbers of deaths are small, Blacks are disproportionately killed by cops. But that is because they have a far higher rate of encounters with cops, and that is due to their far higher crime rates.
When you control for that variable, Whites are actually more likely to be killed. You keep ignoring this central point. The crime rates match victim reports very closely.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:52 pm to InGAButLoveBama
Totally agree with your point.
From DOJ stats...
In every charging category the percentage of crimes committed by blacks often double the percentage of the population. The 2 crimes that is massively outside of just doubling the percentage is murder 53% and robbery 54%. In contrast DUI and Drunk charges are only 14% which would be around the norm for the black population.
White crimes that stand out is murder and robbery which are 44 and 43% well below the population number. Also DUI and drunk charges swell for white offenders to 81 and 73% which is outside of the normal population percentage. All other charges for white people follow along the population percentages + or - a percent point or 2.
From DOJ stats...
In every charging category the percentage of crimes committed by blacks often double the percentage of the population. The 2 crimes that is massively outside of just doubling the percentage is murder 53% and robbery 54%. In contrast DUI and Drunk charges are only 14% which would be around the norm for the black population.
White crimes that stand out is murder and robbery which are 44 and 43% well below the population number. Also DUI and drunk charges swell for white offenders to 81 and 73% which is outside of the normal population percentage. All other charges for white people follow along the population percentages + or - a percent point or 2.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:58 pm to InGAButLoveBama
quote:
e: Mike Gundy likely getting firedPosted on 6/15/20 at 11:14 pm to InGAButLoveBama
LINK /
Up to you to now put up or shut up. This study is a few years old too, odds are the last 4 weeks don’t help your argument.
Regardless, the argument of “more white people are shot than blacks” is fricking ridiculous. How about police “protect and serve” and not shoot people for non major offenses?
ETA: I’m out. Argue to the wind. I see your argument I just don’t agree with it. That’s fine, that’s America, which is also the irony of this whole debate since Gundy still hasn’t been fired.
These two studies do NOT control for police encounters or crime rates, so they just aren't useful. Sure, even thoug the numbers of deaths are small, Blacks are disproportionately killed by cops. But that is because they have a far higher rate of encounters with cops, and that is due to their far higher crime rates.
When you control for that variable, Whites are actually more likely to be killed. You keep ignoring this central point. The crime rates match victim reports very closely.
News in general rarely report serious black on black crimes.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 12:08 am
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:22 am to LouisvilleKat
quote:
Can't imagine why African American players would be upset by OANs fair and balanced coverage.
Because BLM IS A FARCE!! They don't give a damn about people of color... They're a terrorist group like Antifa..
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:25 am to InGAButLoveBama
quote:
I am skeptical of his report of being pulled over 7 times. Did he mean without having done anything like speeding?
Yes, he said 5 of them were for no valid reason.
This is an interesting article you asked me to look at:
LINK
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:42 am to DoubleDown
Little place called Minneapolis is still burning. You people are in denial.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 1:02 am to SCLibertarian
quote:
What are those black players going to do later in life when a boss or a co-worker has different political views?
Try to get them fired?
Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:10 am to member12
BLM protesters have killed people protecting their own private property. Frick them. ALL LIVES MATTER!
Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:02 am to InGAButLoveBama
quote:
I don't deny that Blacks have been profiled in the past, and sometimes still are, but that is due to observable behavior patterns. Why aren't young Asian men pulled over as much?
Whose behavior? Some other black guy’s? Racial profiling aside, it isn’t the job of police to seek out crime. This shite where they see someone and look for a reason to search the person and/or his vehicle based on nothing more than a wish to do so has to stop. If we correct bad policing we won’t have to concern ourselves with racial motives.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 4:12 am to InGAButLoveBama
One of the craziest things I have witnessed in my life is the millions being handed to BLM when people have very little transparency as to where their funds are spent. The nation being sold without factual basis that Black men are the targets of police and White people flocking to support that campaign.
Black men are 6.5% of the population and commit 30%+ of the murders. 88% of those on each other. Police didn’t create this mess. Yes, there are some bad cops. Those pos should get punished. You would think given the crime data that police would kill more Black people as related to arrests or interactions but they do NOT.
In Ferguson, the start of BLM, the grand jury and DOJ found it was justifiable use of force and multiple witnesses confirmed he did not have his hands in the air and had gone after the cop (after stealing from three store per the store clerk).
Somehow, the fact that breaking laws start almost all these killings and is 3x more prevalent in the Black community appears not to matter.
It is a dangerous place we are beginning to live when the political backbone of leaders can be broken with hashtags. Buckle up folks, it is gonna be a long next four months.
Black men are 6.5% of the population and commit 30%+ of the murders. 88% of those on each other. Police didn’t create this mess. Yes, there are some bad cops. Those pos should get punished. You would think given the crime data that police would kill more Black people as related to arrests or interactions but they do NOT.
In Ferguson, the start of BLM, the grand jury and DOJ found it was justifiable use of force and multiple witnesses confirmed he did not have his hands in the air and had gone after the cop (after stealing from three store per the store clerk).
Somehow, the fact that breaking laws start almost all these killings and is 3x more prevalent in the Black community appears not to matter.
It is a dangerous place we are beginning to live when the political backbone of leaders can be broken with hashtags. Buckle up folks, it is gonna be a long next four months.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:38 am to paperwasp
It's absurd this country has come to this. If I was Mike I'd quit tight out. No chance to fire me. For being
A conservative.
A conservative.
Page 10 of 13
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News