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re: Miami HC resigning immediately - citing the professional athlete model we have now.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:16 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:16 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I believe someone mentioned it earlier. I don't care enough to dig into it.
Regardless, that was early in the NIL era, players weren't jumping ship every offseason in search of more lucrative deals. That seemed to be more of his concern, not transfers in and of themselves.
I think we can all agree the portal and NIL have combined to create a much wilder free for all, current day than we had even two years ago.
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:17 pm to SidewalkTiger
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No, coaches operate within a system of contracts. Players don't.
Not sure why some fans want to pretend they're the same.
Nailed it.
Remember when Miami star Isaiah Wong threatened to leave the U if he didn't get more NIL money. And the clowns on here want the coach be loyal to a school.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:17 pm to SidewalkTiger
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don't follow basketball but I feel like you're likely exaggerating what actually happened to further your narrative.
I mentioned Charlie moore earlier but admit I was mistaken. He was a portal guy from the elite 8 team he had the year before.
The final 4 team he used Arkansas state like a farm team poaching their sun belt conference of the year player-Norchad Omier.
He poached a first team all big 12 player from k state-nijel pack
That k state team made the elite 8 the year Miami made the final four btw.
Kinda think that Jerome tang might wonder what would have happened with a returning first team all big 12 player on the roster…
There were other portal guys in addition to those two just wanted to highlight those cases
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:20 pm to LegendInMyMind
I did check on how Miami has managed the portal. Larranaga has done better than most others.
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Miami basketball has had complete transfer portal turnaround
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The Miami basketball program adding wing Jordan Miller and point guard Charlie Moore through the transfer portal helped lead the Hurricanes to the NCAA Regional Final for the first time in program history. Miller and Moore helped Miami overcome losing five players to the 2021 transfer portal.
Miami has been able to overcome losing any players to the transfer portal during the 2022 offseason. The Hurricanes signed two of the best transfers for the 2022-23 season. Point guard Nijel Pack from Kansas State created a lot of attention nationally for the reported $800K two-year NIL deal he signed with Life Wallet.
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Larranaga has been ahead of the curve adding transfers to improve the roster. All three of the Miami teams to reach at least the regional semifinals in the NCAA Tournament under Larranaga have featured transfers as a vital part of the rotation. Point guards Shane Larkin, Angel Rodriquez and Moore were all transfers.
McGusty originally transferred to Miami during the 2018 offseason. Sheldon McClellan was part of an all-transfer backcourt with Rodriguez on the 2016 team that reached the Sweet 16. Expect Miami to continue to be active in the transfer with the backing they have received for athletes securing Name, Image and Likeness deals.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:21 pm to Adam Banks
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The final 4 team he used Arkansas state like a farm team poaching their sun belt conference of the year player-Norchad Omier.
He poached a first team all big 12 player from k state-nijel pack
So 2 total transfers? That's all I see on On3.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:23 pm to SidewalkTiger
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So 2 total transfers? That's all I see on On3.
He had others on that F4 team that were returning that were portal guys from the year or two prior.
Once again.
You don’t think it’s hypocritical to happily take a diamond in the rough that Arkansas state found who was sun belt conference player of the year and not say a word but then complain and quit when others do the same to you?
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:27 pm to Adam Banks
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You don’t think it’s hypocritical to happily take a diamond in the rough that Arkansas state found who was sun belt conference player of the year and not say a word but then complain
THAT I think is hypocritical and also shows how fricked the whole system is.
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quit when others do the same to you?
I still don't see this as an issue. If he takes a job elsewhere short of some D2 program, sure. The guy is straight up saying that he can't do his best anymore. Why in the hell would you want him to stay?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:28 pm to TexasTiger08
Market value is determined by how much you are offered.
It's capitalism.
Are you a commie leftist or what?
It's capitalism.
Are you a commie leftist or what?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:29 pm to Adam Banks
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You don’t think it’s hypocritical to happily take a diamond in the rough that Arkansas state found who was sun belt conference player of the year and not say a word but then complain and quit when others do the same to you?
No because I read his entire statement, unlike many here obviously.
The man said he can't compete in this new era, what's hypocritical about that?
You (and others) keep bringing up his Final Four team having a couple of transfers on it while ignoring the fact that the situation has only gotten crazier since then.
If your job institutes a policy change on 1/1, it doesn't make you a hypocrite if you quit in October due to that same policy change. It means you got tired of dealing with it.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:39 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Are you a commie leftist or what?
No. I’m a conservative that thinks free education, housing, chef prepared meals, access to great training facilities, and tutors who help you pass is a great deal for 98% of D1 athletes.
Market value is just a cop-out term used by most dolts on this board. One minute you guys say they deserve money because they make the school money, but you all can never seem to quantify how much the school makes and how much player X contributed directly to that. The fact that many of the players in the portal don’t change schools shows you that their agents and family have no clue what their value actually is. If these guys are losing to Mt St Mary’s, they won’t be earning the school much money in Tourney revenue. shite, some of them should be indebted to the school.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:53 pm to TexasTiger08
So you are fine with the coaches, AD, school, and admins pocketing millions of dollars and the labor should be fine with room and board? We fought a war over those conditions.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:00 pm to kywildcatfanone
College football is giving waay too much power to the players.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:11 pm to AUCE05
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So you are fine with the coaches, AD, school, and admins pocketing millions of dollars
Coaches? I guess. I mean, I think they are all overpaid, but yeah, most of them have put in their time working up through the lower ranks. Why shouldn't they be able to cash in? Administration in education is full of bloat. I would support revenue sharing, but again...people on here whine but can't quantify what a certain player brings in. These players are all disposable.
And when I was a student at LSU, the Reveille did a report and concluded that football, men's hoops, and baseball turned a profit. And the basketball team wasn't making bank. Once that money is invested back into the program in terms of facilities, paying support staff that caters to these athletes, etc...then what is left?
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labor should be fine with room and board?
You are dense enough to think they only get room and board. Check out the facilities these students use for free. They have trainers, medical staff, and are eating way better than a regular student. All of that has a cost.
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We fought a war over those conditions.
No war was fought because people overvalued 19 year olds and their ability to shoot a basketball, especially when said 19 year old was treated better than most anybody else on campus.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:13 pm to TexasTiger08
It's not free. They are the ones bringing in the revenue.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:23 pm to AUCE05
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It's not free. They are the ones bringing in the revenue.
I disagree to a certain extent, people tune in to watch the brands, not specific players.
If every P4 player disappeared tomorrow and the teams were exclusively stocked with G5 players, you'd barely notice a change in viewership, I'd wager.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:26 pm to AUCE05
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It's not free. They are the ones bringing in the revenue.
Seems like a fair trade then.
According to the Auburn website, it would cost an out of state student roughly $117,828 for four years of tuition, room and board, books, transportation, and meals. Now, we know damn well an athlete is eating better than your average student. They have their own dining halls and whatnot.
That price doesn't include the access to trainers and facilities, healthcare, medicine, and tutors. Those things cost money to everyday students. Your starting point guard isn't going to the school infirmary to treat his flu. He's also not working out in the school rec center.
Now, you say "those things aren't free". What is the cost to build and maintain these fancy training centers? How much of that revenue is used to pay salaries for said training staff? Let's not forget the PR staff that will highlight every dunk and block these kids have.
Again, how much money is a program making, and how much are they already spending to pamper these kids?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:27 pm to SidewalkTiger
The dude build his best teams off transfers is bitching transfers are the reason he’s quitting, why are you guys white knighting him? We didn’t give the UNLV QB slack for quitting mid season in football, we aren’t going to give this coach slack either.
Also, he has some nerve to pimp himself up as if players are using his coaching to grow their value and jump ship. That’s far fetched.
Why aren’t SEC basketball players leaving their teams after a successful NCAA run for money? Sounds like he’s generalizing his problem.
Also, he has some nerve to pimp himself up as if players are using his coaching to grow their value and jump ship. That’s far fetched.
Why aren’t SEC basketball players leaving their teams after a successful NCAA run for money? Sounds like he’s generalizing his problem.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I disagree to a certain extent, people tune in to watch the brands, not specific players.
If every P4 player disappeared tomorrow and the teams were exclusively stocked with G5 players, you'd barely notice a change in viewership, I'd wager.
This is very true for college athletics. Repping the brand of an SEC school (not to mention the hundreds or thousands of dollars of swag these kids are routinely blessed with) is worth its weight in gold.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:29 pm to JayAg
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The dude build his best teams off transfers is bitching transfers are the reason he’s quitting, why are you guys white knighting him?
Because that isn't true.
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Also, he has some nerve to pimp himself up as if players are using his coaching to grow their value and jump ship. That’s far fetched.
I didn't see that. Which quote are you referring to?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:45 pm to JayAg
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why are you guys white knighting him
Because he said he's exhausted. He said he can't give it his best. Why would you want that guy to coach your team? We aren't talking about some fed up 38 year old, the dude is 75. Sometimes you hit the wall fast and you are just done.
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