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re: Miami HC resigning immediately - citing the professional athlete model we have now.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:25 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:25 pm to LegendInMyMind
Maybe 8 players leaving has something to do with a disastrous season so far. Maybe
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:27 pm to NickPapageorgio
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But, you are correct when you say that many of those who hate on the portal and nil often encourage teams to pursue coaches from other teams in order to raise their own programs.
Why should 18 year olds get treated equally to the people in charge?
In the professional world, there is a hierarchy. The bosses generally get cushy treatment compared to low level workers.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:29 pm to GurleyGirl
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As is everything is completely one-sided in favor of the players.
There was every opportunity in the world for the NCAA to handle this over the last 30 years as things got bigger and bigger. Instead they doubled down and refused to budge. Greed ruled the day.
Now the shoe is on the other foot, hard to blame the players now.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:29 pm to NickPapageorgio
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He quit on the kids he recruited.
By this logic, anybody who retires “quits” on their kids.
I suppose if he mailed it in the rest of the year and was fired that would be ok?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:34 pm to TexasTiger08
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Why should 18 year olds get treated equally to the people in charge?
They should be in charge of their own lives and careers.
You disagree?
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In the professional world, there is a hierarchy. The bosses generally get cushy treatment compared to low level workers.
In the professional world people quit for more money every single day. Sometimes they quit because of a shite work environment too and go to what they feel will suit them better.
Are you familiar with how employment works?
People quit. For instance, this asshat coach quit during the middle of basketball season.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:36 pm to kywildcatfanone
Can't blame him, either. This is it for college sports and being a HC having to deal with all this is extremely stressful and very injurious to one's health and quality of life. What good is raking in millions of dollars as a HC when, God only knows, you end up 6-feet under within 3-5 years from all the pressure and stress, etc.? I've never seen a U-Haul trailer at a funeral.
Personally, I'm concerned about a lot of these coaches these days, including Kirby. He's still young, but you have to ask just how much longer will even he be able to put up with all this. Saban saw the writing on the wall and wisely got OUT!
Personally, I'm concerned about a lot of these coaches these days, including Kirby. He's still young, but you have to ask just how much longer will even he be able to put up with all this. Saban saw the writing on the wall and wisely got OUT!
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:37 pm to JayAg
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The mid majors aren’t struggling
who the fuk is that?
are you a fan thet watches them on tv all the time?
I just never knew they were revelant. Who's in this league? How many teams?
Are they more popular than the Pro Girl league?
I'm serious.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:37 pm to TexasTiger08
He quit on his team in the middle of the season. A gentleman would have coached out the year and then retired. You owe it to the school and the players .
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:40 pm to TexasTiger08
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I suppose if he mailed it in the rest of the year and was fired that would be ok?
He's a jerk either way.
If he mailed it in, that is.
The only honorable choice he had was to fulfill his obligations he committed to in August. He could have enjoyed teaching his team for 3 more months and kept some dignity.
He didn't. If he had health reasons or the AD and him determined it would be best for him to leave now.....fine.
He didn't say that though. He said I'm quitting because I'm exhausted and my players left 18 months ago.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:45 pm to NickPapageorgio
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They should be in charge of their own lives and careers
Players have been free to transfer for a long time now. In basketball, they can also go to the GLeague. Nobody is forcing them to play in the NCAA.
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In the professional world people quit for more money every single day. Sometimes they quit because of a shite work environment too and go to what they feel will suit them better.
And that doesn’t make them assholes.
Coach doesn’t owe you an explanation to why he quit, but he gave you one. I doubt he cares that you think he’s some a-hole.
Your reaction to this has me convinced that he screwed your wife.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:47 pm to TexasTiger08
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That’s what the adults get to do
The guy is trying to act above it all and that all sportsmanship is gone from the game when 30-40 years ago he would have been ridiculed and blackballed for doing this mid season.
Listen, people have their own reasons for doing stuff and it’s fine.
Just don’t try to do that right before conference play and then try to act like the arbiter of sportsmanship
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:48 pm to kywildcatfanone
Old man who made millions is mad his labor wants to get paid too
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:48 pm to NickPapageorgio
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He's a jerk either way. If he mailed it in, that is. The only honorable choice he had was to fulfill his obligations he committed to in August.
frick the entitled kids these days. They want, want, and want. Free gear, free food, free tuition, free housing, easy passing grades and essentially a free degree if they want it. Add NIL on top of that.
Sorry, Jim doesn’t owe them or you or anybody else jack shite. If the guy is truly exhausted, those athletes aren’t going to get his best regardless. May as well step down and let someone with some energy take over.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:52 pm to deltaland
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It’s complete garbage. Restrictions have to be put in place. Allow NIL deals with enforceable contracts that require the player to remain at the team a certain number of years, require participation in postseason play, financial penalties for breaking the contract, etc.
It seems to me that the contracts could be structured with non-compete agreements. People sign them all the time. I'm sure the lawyers that draw these things up have considered that and concluded that it isn't feasible. Probably because every school would have to agree to do the same thing. Otherwise, they would be at a bargaining disadvantage with the players and their agents.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:52 pm to kywildcatfanone
Well that's a bit hypocritical considering 4/5 of their top scorers on that team were transfer portal players.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:52 pm to TexasTiger08
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Nobody is forcing them to play in the NCAA.
I didn't say they were. They are offering them money to play in the NCAA.
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And that doesn’t make them assholes.
Exactly. Leaving a job for an opportunity or money doesn't make a person an a-hole.
What makes a person an a-hole is signing a contract and then quitting in the middle of a time sensitive project while just saying I'm tired and my employees aren't as good as the ones who left me for greener pastures 18 months ago.
That's what clowns do.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:55 pm to NickPapageorgio
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What makes a person an a-hole is signing a contract and then quitting in the middle of a time sensitive project while just saying I'm tired and my employees aren't as good as the ones who left me for greener pastures 18 months ago.
Dude is 75 years old. The gig in 2024 isn’t the same as the gig last year, or any years prior. Again, him quitting could be a blessing.
I coached with someone who was in his 60’s and he stepped down midseason. It was the beginning of a rejuvenation for the program.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:00 pm to yakster
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Maybe 8 players leaving has something to do with a disastrous season so far. Maybe
Maybe, but he is nowhere near the only coach dealing with that exact scenario. Hell, some of the coaches dealing with that exact scenario are doing pretty damn good right now.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:05 pm to Herman Frisco
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He quit on his team in the middle of the season. A gentleman would have coached out the year and then retired. You owe it to the school and the players .
Everything the guy has ever said, including in interviews leading up to this season, points to him being the type of guy who wouldn't do this. He's 75, has a bad team that just lost seven in a row, and has growing pressure to retire (which he has recently said he had no interest in) from pundits and some fans alike. This has "parting of ways" or "forced out" written all over it.
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:05 pm to TexasTiger08
All he had to say was.....im exhausted and too old...I don't have the heart for this....I apologize to my players and the fans.
He didn't do that man. That's why he's catching shite. He handled it like an a-hole.
He didn't do that man. That's why he's catching shite. He handled it like an a-hole.
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