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re: Merry Christmas! Jesus died for our sins
Posted on 12/25/21 at 1:52 pm to X
Posted on 12/25/21 at 1:52 pm to X
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The Gospel is foolishness Fixed it for you.
I understand…the Gospel is offensive, it’s exclusive, it pertains to where a person will spend eternity. You don’t believe because you are blinded. I pray one day that you will see.
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Posted on 12/25/21 at 1:53 pm to DawgsLife
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What did I just write that is un-Christlike?
Matthew 10:14
Posted on 12/25/21 at 1:54 pm to Cuthy
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The date that truly matters is each man’s birth date. The day he is birthed in Jesus - when he is supernaturally born again. NO man in this conversation can make you to become Christ’s man. It is for each man to decide, it’s a one-to-one personal decision between you and the One who offers you a gift of immense, eternal value.
Yes, that was a big deal that Jesus specifically taught and set the example with his own. It's not optional and it certainly has nothing to do with worldly mythology.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 1:55 pm to First Sergeant1
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You don’t believe because you are blinded.
This is the kind of thing that will ensure Christianity will probably be irrelevant as a global religion within 100 years and why I left it nearly two decades ago. Thank you for the reminder.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 1:58 pm to First Sergeant1
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You don’t believe because you are blinded.
God damn I do not miss the Bible thumping south
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:01 pm to Notrub14
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Completely false. Luke makes a couple of historical errors in his infancy narrative that a confirmable by non-Biblical sources. 1. There was no empire wide census under Augustus. 2. The local census of Judea under Quirinius took place in AD 6-7, too late for the birth of Jesus.
This is completely untrue. Not sure what your resources are but they’re not good.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:01 pm to bamameister
quote:No it doesn't. Not in the way you are insinuating. You are taking scripture out of context. I am familiar with the passage you are referring to (I think) and you are taking it way out of context.
And yet the Bible specifically warned Christians to "not go beyond what is written."
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I'm fighting yours. Have you got another one you would like me to address?
I don't care what you address going forward. I was merely curious if Christianity had some special focus from you for some reason. It appears as if it does.
quote:Really> How were people killed in the first and second world war in the name of Christianity? And don't even try to pass of Hitler as being Christian.
More people have been killed in the name of their Christian God in the 20th century with the first and second World War
quote:An what do you think Christians expect from others?
Watching folks talk it up and not walk it up has very little to do with "perfection" and what people expect from others. It's such the lazy "Christian" counterattack.
quote:That passage isn't talking about what people think of themselves or what others think of Christians. it is talking about how we should help others, minister to others, witness to others.
Yet Jesus said, "by your fruits, you will be known." It's not what you think about yourself, or what others happen to think about you either. Your whole obligation is to get it right, by what you read and what you DO. Simply follow the instructions.
quote:Are you saying you are a believer? You have already said you are not when you called Christianity "Mythology", so I am only taking you at your word.
Why do you associate my position at this point with "unbelief"? You may have to change your premise. Let's see if you can do it.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:02 pm to AgsNguyening
This is the kind of thing that will ensure Christianity will probably be irrelevant as a global religion within 100 years
This thing has been said for centuries. In fact the Romans and Pharisees said this right after Jesus was crucified. But here we are my friend. Sorry you never experienced Jesus in your religious efforts. But Jesus is real and wants to spend eternity with you!
This thing has been said for centuries. In fact the Romans and Pharisees said this right after Jesus was crucified. But here we are my friend. Sorry you never experienced Jesus in your religious efforts. But Jesus is real and wants to spend eternity with you!
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:02 pm to First Sergeant1
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This is completely untrue. Not sure what your resources are but they’re not good.
My source is Raymond Brown so I guess you think he is "not good." You're a better Biblical scholar than Raymond Brown? lmao
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:04 pm to AgsNguyening
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Matthew 10:14
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
You mean the passage in which He is specifically talking to specific apostles as they go out to towns and cities to witness?
How is what I have said contrary to that?
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:07 pm to greygoose
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Sad and pathetic. A true telling of just how miserable some are, and just how much they need the hear and understand the teachings of greatest man who has ever lived.
The message seemed more appropriate at Easter time. Christmas is about hope and new beginnings…
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:09 pm to AgsNguyening
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Stop it. Asking questions and presenting counter arguments isn’t “ridicule” or “make(ing) fun”. T
When it is calling my faith a mythology? That isn't ridiculing?
quote:I'm tough enough. You aren't hurting my feelings or hurting my faith in any way. I have just been curious what drives your need to enter into a thread that clearly you do not agree with and ridicule someones faith.
Tough up a little.
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You aren’t above being asked tough questions and if you are unable to answer them then just say so and move on. Don’t play the victim card please.
I have been answering yours (and others) questions for 2-3 pages now. But are you saying you should be allowed to ask any and all questions yet somehow be above answering one or two that I might have for you?
Yet....I need to toughen up and I am playing the victim card?
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:10 pm to DawgsLife
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How is what I have said contrary to that?
This post combined with your scope of work throughout this thread is an example of how Christians generally tend to complicate the simple and ignore the complex.
It is a simple operating procedure offered by Jesus himself that once his disciples offer the listener the gospel and they reject it, to not waste time and move on to someone else.
And yet you keep responding.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:13 pm to FreddieMac
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The message seemed more appropriate at Easter time. Christmas is about hope and new beginnings…
In fairness, without Christmas there would be no Easter. Like it or not they are tied together.
I mean I get it. Not everybody will agree with the message or believe it. For them I would say pass on the thread.
I am not Muslim nor do I believe in the Islamic faith. if someone celebrated Ramadan with a thread, I would not go into that thread and ridicule the message. I would simply pass it over.
I think most people would. I find it telling so many that have come into this thread wanting to tear down Christianity.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:17 pm to BC_t_AD
Will this obviously shiny hook catch that many atheists?
Not very Christian of you to trigger so many on the day we commemorate the birth of the savior.
Not very Christian of you to trigger so many on the day we commemorate the birth of the savior.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:17 pm to DawgsLife
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I find it telling so many that have come into this thread wanting to tear down Christianity.
It's probably because we logged onto SEC rant to see "Merry Christmas! Jesus died for our sins." I'm not sure what Jesus supposedly dying for our sins has to do with the Southeastern Conference.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:18 pm to AgsNguyening
All you really need in this world is mental toughness and something (be it a job, hobby, family or friends) to give you some purpose. That’s all.
Humans have preserved for a hell of a lot longer than 2,000 years in environments a hell of a lot tougher than what we face today. Our prehistoric ancestors survived nightmarish conditions for millennia before anyone knew anything about Jesus - and yet many living in the easiest time/place in human history (21st century America) believe they just can’t cope without Jesus.
Nonsense.
Humans have preserved for a hell of a lot longer than 2,000 years in environments a hell of a lot tougher than what we face today. Our prehistoric ancestors survived nightmarish conditions for millennia before anyone knew anything about Jesus - and yet many living in the easiest time/place in human history (21st century America) believe they just can’t cope without Jesus.
Nonsense.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:18 pm to DawgsLife
I really don’t mean this as ridicule, but I honestly think that you don’t know a lot about the Bible or the historical and social aspects of the period and you would do well to study it. Not because I am trying to convince you of anything, but because it would make you better at debating your position.
Happy Holidays and best wishes to all of you!
Happy Holidays and best wishes to all of you!
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:20 pm to AgsNguyening
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complicate the simple and ignore the complex.
I have been known to do that.
quote:SO are you saying we should just move on and let the thread die?
It is a simple operating procedure offered by Jesus himself that once his disciples offer the listener the gospel and they reject it, to not waste time and move on to someone else.
2 Corinthians 5:14 — The New International Version (NIV)
14 For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died.
But, yes. I usually try to recognize when it does no good to talk anymore. I am a born arguer (is that a word?) and rather enjoy making my point. But it's probably time to recognize that we are all beating our heads against the wall.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:27 pm to AgsNguyening
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This is the kind of thing that will ensure Christianity will probably be irrelevant as a global religion within 100 years and why I left it nearly two decades ago. Thank you for the reminder
You’re welcome. I love the truth and try to share it whenever I can.
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