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re: Men's basketball is the only sport which has decreased in talent in the past 30+ years
Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:25 pm to morriscat2
Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:25 pm to morriscat2
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So what’s your point? Most basketball players could play football. But many football players could not play basketball, especially the lineman.
I think you missed the point. The best basketball players are playing less and less men's college basketball, which has had a negative impact on the talent level in the college game.
Still fun to watch for the casual fan, but the level of play can be pretty brutal.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 3:26 pm
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:41 pm to Mulkey Man
I agree with that. I'm an Arkansas fan. We peaked when the sport was peaking in the early to mid 90s, so I agree wholeheartedly!
In the late 90s it started to decline with players like Kobe and Kevin Garnett never playing college ball.
It won't ever be the same as it was from the mid80s to mid90s.
In the late 90s it started to decline with players like Kobe and Kevin Garnett never playing college ball.
It won't ever be the same as it was from the mid80s to mid90s.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:44 pm to ThunderSnow
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Only one of the top five projected picks (Miller) will deliver a murder weapon.
Melt, pussy.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 3:58 pm to morriscat2
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So what’s your point?
His point is this:
If you turn on a SEC Football game between Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida, etc vs another team you are watching numerous future NFL players, and several future NFL all pro stars play.
When you turn on a college basketball game between an elite team (Duke, Kansas, Carolina, Kentucky, Gonzaga, Michigan State, etc). Vs another team, You’ll be lucky if there is even one or two future NBA players, much less a future star on the court.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 4:06 pm to Mulkey Man
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Baseball - gotten stronger with more players bypassing the draft (see Dylan Crews).
- 0 of the top 5, 5 of the top 10, 10 of the top 20 and 21 of the top 38 players drafted in 2022 came from D1 baseball
- 5 of the top 5, 8 of the top 10, 16 of the top 20 and 24 of the top 38 players drafted in 1992 came from D1 baseball
2021 - 2 of the top 5, 5 of the top 10, 10 of the top 20
2020 - 5 of the top 5, 8 of the top 10 (COVID), 13 of the top 20
2019 - 3 of the top 5, 7 of the top 10, 12 of the top 20
2018 - 5 of the top 5, 7 of the top 10, 10 of the top 20
Throw in the fact that baseball has more foreign born, non-college players in the professional system than ever and D1 baseball players make up by far the smallest % of top professional league players than any other professional sport.........as much or more in 2023 than in 1993.
The % of active players on a roster that played in college at D1 school would pretty clearly go:
1. NFL (95%)
2. NBA (75-80%)
3. MLB (50%?)
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 3/21/23 at 4:37 pm to Mulkey Man
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Women's basketball
Hard to decrease in talent when there was zero to begin with.
Troll better Karen
Posted on 3/21/23 at 4:48 pm to Mulkey Man
There was more talent when HS seniors could go straight to the NBA?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 5:01 pm to junkfunky
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There was more talent when HS seniors could go straight to the NBA?
The era before that. Everyone had to play three seasons of college ball, and many played four.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:30 pm to Mulkey Man
College baseball has gotten stronger? That’s laughable. I know y’all are a baseball school but come on, man!!!
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:31 pm to Mulkey Man
So that explains why lsu sucks at it
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:42 pm to Mulkey Man
I guess you are right. I missed the point. But I for one don’t enjoy a bunch of blue bloods playing for money and fame instead of loyalty and love of the game. This is why college sports is more agreeable to me ,and many others, than the pros. So let the super stars leave after a year. Or better yet, let them go straight from high school into the pros.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:44 pm to Mulkey Man
Baseball is a diluted version of its former self. There are major leaguers now that would not sniff a roster pre expansion.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:53 pm to Mulkey Man
Ignore the retards Mulkey. Anyone that thinks modern day teams could take teams like 84 UNC just don't follow the sport.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:02 pm to Mulkey Man
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Everyone had to play three seasons of college ball, and many played four.
They only had to be 2 years removed from high school until 1975. From 1975 until 2005, players could enter the draft right out of high school. Only one high school player was drafted in 1975 and not again until Garnett was drafted in 1995, but there was no rule against it either.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:03 pm to Legionfield
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College baseball has gotten stronger?
Yes it’s gotten stronger. To what degree is debatable but it’s not debatable it’s gotten stronger
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:11 pm to lsufball19
That’s why Ronald Acuña played college ball? Oh yea….he didn’t. You had guys like Big Mac, Barry Bonds, etc play college baseball back in the day….no more
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:16 pm to Drewbie
quote:Some folks aren’t old enough to remember a team from 40 freaking years ago man.
Ignore the retards Mulkey. Anyone that thinks modern day teams could take teams like 84 UNC just don't follow the sport.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:33 pm to RT1941
quote:You can look at full games they played on YouTube right now. If you don't know what the game looked like back then, it's willful ignorance.
Some folks aren’t old enough to remember a team from 40 freaking years ago man.
Even moreso to the point, if you don't know what the game looked like back then, you shouldn't be involved in this discussion in the first place.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:46 pm to Legionfield
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You had guys like Big Mac, Barry Bonds, etc play college baseball back in the day….no more
Aaron Judge
Justin Verlander
Trea Turner
Paul Goldschmidt
Kyle Schwarber
Aaron Nola
Max Scherzer
Ryan Helsley
Jacob deGrom
Anthony Rendon
Dansby Swanson
Alex Bregman
Gerritt Cole
Stephen Strasburg
Kevin Gausman
Trevor Bauer
Carlos Rodón
Kris Bryant
Pete Alonso
Corbin Burnes
Shane Bieber
Andrew Benintendi
Ian Happ
Walker Buehler
Ryan Helsley
Jake Cronenworth
Just to name a few (there’s more) that have been at minimum all-stars the last few years who played college ball
So you picked one international player to show me the college game isn’t better now? How compelling
You haven’t been paying attention (clearly) if you don’t think the college game has gotten better. I’ve been following the sport 30 years. It’s not debatable
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 3/21/23 at 10:12 pm to lsufball19
Yep. Now count the number of college seasons played by the best players in the NBA.
Giannis - 0
Luka- 0
Tatum - 1
Jokic - 0
Embiid - 1
LeBron - 0
Durant - 1
And so on.
Morant and Lillard, two late bloomers who played small school college ball, are the exceptions. Morant played 2 seasons.
Giannis - 0
Luka- 0
Tatum - 1
Jokic - 0
Embiid - 1
LeBron - 0
Durant - 1
And so on.
Morant and Lillard, two late bloomers who played small school college ball, are the exceptions. Morant played 2 seasons.
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