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re: McElwian to UTx

Posted on 12/10/10 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 1:56 pm to
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Alabama isn't Tom Osborne's Nebraska. Wide receivers should be brought in to get open and catch the ball. The only WR who can do that consistently on Alabama's team is Jones. The problems will become even more glaringly obvious if McElwain stays and Jones departs after this year. Don't you think I've been proven right about McElroy and McElwain? I'm right about this too.



You're going to be one frustrated Bama fan as long as Saban is at Alabama because the offense is Saban's offense.

I don't know how old you are but I was just as frustrated as you when Mal Moore was the OC. We never seemed to have a great QB. Never seemed to be able to air it out. Always predictable. Then the offensive mastermind of Homer Smith came into the picture. I had great hope. Those hopes got dashed pretty quickly. Same results. It was because of the philosophy of the head coach and not the OC.

And FYI McElroy had higher numbers and a higher pass percentage than he did last year. But I won't let a few facts disturb your rant. After all that's what this forum is called.
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6934 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 1:57 pm to
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Don't you think I've been proven right about McElroy and McElwain?
Not at all. There are a lot of people that think you're an idiot.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 1:58 pm to
Bama fans had no problem with the offense last year.


I hope McElwain stays. The problem wasn't the playcalling this year. The OL wasn't opening holes, nor protecting the QB well enough.
Posted by TracyWolfsonsmole
Member since Nov 2008
1034 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:00 pm to
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Don't you think I've been proven right about McElroy


Nope. In fact, you've been proven wrong. AJ showed he wasn't ready for prime time during the Aub game.
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 2:01 pm
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:00 pm to
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Jim McElwain can tell the QB all season to go through his reads, but it's up to the QB to actually do it.


Greg held on to the ball too long at times but other times the OL sucked and couldn't hold a block on my dead grandmother. Everybody had a part on that offense. Part execution. Part predictability. Part lack of experience on the OL. It was a hodge podge of things.

Still Bama won 9 games. I'm glad I can bitch about a 9 win season again. The alternative was the equivalent of wandering through the desert for 40 years.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:02 pm to
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Nope. In fact, you've been proven wrong. AJ showed he wasn't ready for prime time during the Aub game.




Surely you can't be serious. He came off he bench in the 4th quarter with about a minute left on the clock. What were you expecting?
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34658 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:03 pm to
How big of an upgrade do you think McCarron will be next year? I can very easily see him having a 2003 Matt Leinart type year if Julio comes back for his senior season. You're definitely right about the offensive line. It seems like somebody's always been hurt which has hurt their continuity and given them little time to gel.
Posted by TracyWolfsonsmole
Member since Nov 2008
1034 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:06 pm to
I don't fault him. Just saying he wasn't ready last yr, as some believed.
Posted by IHateOrange
Gadsden
Member since Jan 2007
635 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:07 pm to
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Don't you think I've been proven right about McElroy and McElwain?


Not even close.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:08 pm to
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How big of an upgrade do you think McCarron will be next year?


If McCarron doesn't get beaten out by Sims and Julio comes back he will probably put up respectable numbers. He will probably throw a lot of INTs though. AJ kind of strikes me as the Favre type unfortunately. By that I mean a stupid QB who takes too many chances, but by virtue of the law of averages enough of those chances pay off for him to get the "gunslinger" label.
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34658 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:09 pm to
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I don't fault him. Just saying he wasn't ready last yr, as some believed


If Alabama didn't redshirt him last year, maybe he would have been ready. He might have even beaten McElroy out for the starting job and the Alabama FB season might have taken on a entirely different path with him behind center.
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6934 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:11 pm to
If, if, if...
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:15 pm to
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How big of an upgrade do you think McCarron will be next year? I can very easily see him having a 2003 Matt Leinart type year if Julio comes back for his senior season. You're definitely right about the offensive line. It seems like somebody's always been hurt which has hurt their continuity and given them little time to gel.


I'm willing to bet McCarron doesn't have a 65% completion rate or if he does it will be right at it. But I think it will improve the next year just like McElroy's did.

Still not going to have the continuity because we're losing Carpenter and Dial. Dial was a pretty good blocker and he will be missed.
Posted by Alabamya
Da Ham
Member since Jan 2009
9179 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:32 pm to
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losing Carpenter


Most overrated OL we have had in years,imo. Seen the guy get beat way to many times. I think Kughfnbcjdksgjo will be an upgrade.
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 2:34 pm
Posted by BamaFan5833
Muscle Shoals
Member since Feb 2010
938 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:36 pm to
No matter who the offensive coordinator or qb is Bench McElroy will be calling for them to be pulled or fired at this same time next year.
Posted by arty
Member since Nov 2010
927 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 2:57 pm to
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Most overrated OL we have had in years,imo. Seen the guy get beat way to many times. I think Kughfnbcjdksgjo will be an upgrade.


Not saying I thought Carpenter was great because I saw him get beat too. I'm just talking about continuity. The OL is probably the hardest position lo learn after the QB spot. Plugging in younguns doesn't bode well for production.
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 2:59 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 3:00 pm to
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I'm just not a fan of his offensive philosophy. The "take what the defense gives you" crap is fine when you don't have the talent to make the defense take what you give it. We had a Heisman winning RB, arguably a top 5 back in the country as our backup, 3 returning OL starters, one of the best WRs in the country, and a 5th year senior at QB. Plenty of talent there to score 35+ a game consistently. Our offense is just some weird mutant spread/pro-style thing that can't stay in sync for an entire half, let alone an entire game. I'd rather just see us commit to one particular style of offense instead of taking a little bit from several styles.





LINK

Bama did score ~35 points per game on offense (34.6).
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72926 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 3:41 pm to
I like McElwain. These idiots that want him gone would be drooling over him if the offensive line had been better in 2010. They were young and stayed banged up. That'll make any OC's job difficult. He still produced an offense that averaged 34 PPG and 440 YPG.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72926 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 3:42 pm to
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bmy


This shite has gone on forever within the Alabama fanbase. There's always a better QB or OC out there. Some dumbass fans are never content.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35671 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 3:55 pm to
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Most overrated OL we have had in years,imo. Seen the guy get beat way to many times. I think Kughfnbcjdksgjo will be an upgrade.


In any other offense, Carpenter would have been a RT or OG, but in Bama's offense, runblocking was the only thing they really needed out of the LT.

I think he performed admirable for a position he wasn't suppose to play or will never play again.

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