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Mac Jones is objectively better than Trevor Lawrence
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:34 pm
...and its not close.
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:35 pm to MaroonMonsoon
Lawrence will be drafted higher and probably be a better pro, but there is zero argument that Trevor Lawrence had a better year than Mac. He was literally worse in every passing category - totals, efficiency, per game, whatever.
Hell he didn't have as good a year as Trask or Howell from UNC in his own conference.
Hell he didn't have as good a year as Trask or Howell from UNC in his own conference.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
They had to throw Clemson a bone
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:37 pm to MaroonMonsoon
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:41 pm to MaroonMonsoon
Vote for Heisman after the semifinal game and Goldilocks doesn’t get an invite to the ceremony. He had no business being 2nd.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Lawrence will be drafted higher and probably be a better pro
I keep seeing people say this, especially the part about him likely being a better nfl qb, but the answer for why always seems to be his physical attributes. I mean that's fine and all, but why aren't his physical attributes helping him put up better numbers against lesser competition (compared to the competition he'll face in nfl).
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:45 pm to ChoadieMcSmalls
Ryan Leaf was supposed to have some pretty good physical attributes too.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:46 pm to ChoadieMcSmalls
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I keep seeing people say this, especially the part about him likely being a better nfl qb, but the answer for why always seems to be his physical attributes. I mean that's fine and all, but why aren't his physical attributes helping him put up better numbers against lesser competition (compared to the competition he'll face in nfl).
I'm curious about this as well. One cannot help but wonder if he's ridden having a talent advantage for so long that he's in for a rude awakening in the NFL. Dude went 10-1 in the regular season with a season that ranked 12th in QB Rating - lots of QBs with better numbers and worse records. He definitely got carried by his team.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:48 pm to ChoadieMcSmalls
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I keep seeing people say this, especially the part about him likely being a better nfl qb, but the answer for why always seems to be his physical attributes. I mean that's fine and all, but why aren't his physical attributes helping him put up better numbers against lesser competition (compared to the competition he'll face in nfl).
I don't know, and don't pretend to know all the specifics.
I will say that there are a few things
(1) Their scheme kind of sucks. It's incredibly
simplistic, relies a ton on horizontal stuff and doesn't seem to have a whole lot of complexity to it. It feels like 80% of his throws are either swing routes or deep shots (which leads to a lower completion %).
(2) His WR group was pretty bleh this year. It was Amari Rodgers, who is a solid college WR but not a 1st round pick type.......and then a bunch of regular arse dudes.
I do find it odd that nobody ever seems to note that he seems to have some serious lapses in accuracy. Sure, his arm is huge, he runs well, he can make some insane throws.....but he also has games where he just misses dudes. Open dudes.
That Alabama game that everyone always talks about where he was so great.....he was ok, but his receivers caught balls that almost nobody else catches. And they did it like 10 times.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Was Danny Wuerfful or Peyton Manning a better quarterback?
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:57 pm to MaroonMonsoon
Trevor also has 200+ rushing yards and 8 rushing TDs.
Trevor:
- 3,359 total yards
- 32 TDs
In 10 games.
336 yards per game, 3.2 TDs per game
Max:
- 4,039 total yards
- 37 TDs
In 12 games
336 yards per game, 3.0 TDs per game
Trevor beats A1abana again
Trevor:
- 3,359 total yards
- 32 TDs
In 10 games.
336 yards per game, 3.2 TDs per game
Max:
- 4,039 total yards
- 37 TDs
In 12 games
336 yards per game, 3.0 TDs per game
Trevor beats A1abana again
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:58 pm to GeauxTigers1410
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Was Danny Wuerfful or Peyton Manning a better quarterback?
In 1996? Wuerfful. Peyton threw 20 TD/12 INT in 1996.
Know something funny? Wuerfull won the Heisman in 1996 but finished #2 in Passer Rating. Know who finished #1?
#1 - Steve Sarkisian, BYU (173.6)
#2 - Danny Wuerffel, Florida (170.6)
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:01 pm to MaroonMonsoon
Statistically Sunshine is basically AJ McCarron. His hype is based almost exclusively on his status as a professional prospect and Saivion Smith being terrible.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:02 pm to MaroonMonsoon
Shouldn’t have even been a finalist
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:03 pm to SidewalkTiger
Ryan Leaf had a serious drug problem. Does Lawrence have any problems with dope?
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:11 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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Vote for Heisman after the semifinal game and Goldilocks doesn’t get an invite to the ceremony. He had no business being 2nd.
DeVonta, Mac, and Najee would have been 1-2-3.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:17 pm to BamaGradinTn
Lawrence has lived off that win over Bama almost as much as Manziel did. Wins over Bama are so rare that when they happen it literally makes careers.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:17 pm to topcat88
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Ryan Leaf had a serious drug problem. Does Lawrence have any problems with dope?
How about Jamarcus Russel then. That guy had every physical attribute you could want.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:47 pm to Crimson K
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How about Jamarcus Russel then. That guy had every physical attribute you could want.
Uhhhh drug problem also lol
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:58 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Trevor beats A1abana again
Believe he came in second tonight
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